Un-Billable Hour Podcast - Legal Talk Network https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/ Mon, 04 Aug 2025 18:49:40 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2 The Future of Law, Understanding the “Big Picture” in a Changing World https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/07/the-future-of-law-understanding-the-big-picture-in-a-changing-world/ Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:15:11 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=39544 When running a law firm, it’s vital to know what’s important. Results? Production? Call it “everything.” When we explore the future of law, it’s important to talk about the whole picture. Today, that means AI, money, financing, and results. Guest Dan Lear, VP of Partnerships at InfoTrack shares his insights. 

It starts with understanding the “hemispheres” of the brain and understanding yourself and how you think. The world is moving from a “left brain” logical type of approach to a more holistic, creative approach, tapping unconventional, big picture skills. The narrow approach learned in law school and practiced in the past is due for an upgrade. 

There’s a lot going on. Will AI make you more productive, or will it jam you up? Understanding today’s legal landscape and the new era of work demands your attention. 

Lear digs into how fast things are changing. AI is rewriting the very tech we use, and you can’t escape it, only keep up. Take a new look at the future of work, and, equally important, the future of money, outside funding, and the practice of law as a business. 

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Community Table: Candidates With Grit But Not Experience. Plus, Resolving Employee Communication Problems. https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/07/community-table-candidates-with-grit-but-not-experience-plus-resolving-employee-communication-problems/ Tue, 08 Jul 2025 15:15:30 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=39434 Host Christopher T. Anderson and team are at the Community Table. Real answers, no script. In this episode, a job candidate is a great cultural fit but doesn’t have the skills. And, what about an employe who doesn’t communicate like you?

EPISODE NOTES: 

In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • A law firm owner finds an associate candidate who seems like a good “culture” fit and has great qualities. There’s potential, but not the experience and skills for this position. Does the firm take a chance and invest, find another role for the candidate, or look for a more polished attorney?
  • What to do with an employee who doesn’t fit the office culture and struggles to communicate with coworkers? Even worse, efforts to develop communication skills fall flat. Can this ever work out? Christopher’s insights will surprise you.
  • Where do you stand on the old mantra “hire slow, fire fast?” The panel challenges assumptions and adages that somehow seem to hang on.


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REFERENCES MENTIONED:

“Extraordinary Attorney Woo,” Wikipedia

Malcolm Gladwell’s Revisionist History podcast

Clio Legal Trends Report 

Cliocon 2025

 

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AI, Not Taking Over the Practice of Law, But Changing It https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/06/ai-not-taking-over-the-practice-of-law-but-changing-it/ Tue, 24 Jun 2025 11:00:47 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=39377 AI is real and it’s rapidly advancing the practice of law. Guest Austin Brittenham is the co-founder of the legal AI company 2nd Chair. As an attorney, he recognized the inefficiencies that plague the legal profession and put his background in computer tech to work to create an AI platform that both recognizes the unique challenges facing lawyers – including security and confidentiality – while speeding workflow and maximizing output. 

AI has been put to work in a lot of “lawyer-adjacent” areas of law such as web design, intake, and billing, but Brittenham recognized the need for a model that helps lawyers practice actual law. 

He says AI won’t replace lawyers, but it may change how lawyers are viewed. If AI can automate mundane tasks, such as drafting paperwork, attorneys may be able to get back to their traditional role of a true “counsellor,” providing meaningful guidance.

Hear about what’s coming in the future and, more importantly, what’s here now. Start slowly, learn the state-by-state rules, and see where you can get in the game. If you’ve been curious about AI and how it will change the practice of law, you’ll want to catch this episode. 

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Community Table: Alternative Fee Structures, Virtual Receptionists, and a Second Office https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/06/community-table-alternative-fee-structures-virtual-receptionists-and-a-second-office/ Tue, 10 Jun 2025 11:00:09 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=39310 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • To meet client demand, firms are exploring alternative fee structures, such as flat-rate billing. Clients are paying for results, not hours. Today’s tech, including AI, can make your firm more efficient and settle cases faster. Hear how you can experiment with different fee structures and where they may, or may not, work. 
  • Do you need a real receptionist, or can you get by with an outsourced, virtual one? There can be advantages. Clients today expect more, including 24/7 availability. Virtual receptionists can be available around the clock, and modern technology can offer lower costs, greater capacity, and add-ons such as multiple languages.
  • As your firm’s footprint expands, you may consider opening an office in a new territory. Dig into the pros – and many cons – of expanding your reach and the creative alternatives to physical office space (even sending a ride-share company to pick up distant clients and bringing them to you).
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Be That Lawyer, Insider Tips to Building Your Firm, Becoming a Rainmaker https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/05/be-that-lawyer-insider-tips-to-building-your-firm-becoming-a-rainmaker/ Tue, 27 May 2025 11:00:37 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=39162 In this hands-on, in-the-trenches episode about real business development, learn the secrets to acquiring and signing new clients from law firm advisor Steve Fretzin, author of the new book “Be That Lawyer: The 101 Top Rainmaker Secrets to Growing a Successful Law Practice.”

Fretzin, an accomplished author, business strategist, and podcaster, works with law firms big and small to help them prioritize goals, build their business, and achieve measurable, repeatable successes.

Business development is more than buzzwords such as “branding” or “marketing,” it’s about the entire, intentional path to creating a business that is always growing, always producing. It’s the process of becoming the lawyer that everyone knows and everyone goes to: a rainmaker. As Fretzin says, “Be that lawyer.” 

Hear about “sales-free selling” with a thoughtful, insightful approach to learning what clients need before you start pitching a service. Develop a checklist, a map, for building your business that you can put to work today. Developing a business can be confusing, with a lot of moving parts. Fretzin explains how it all comes together.

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Community Table: The Five Commandments of Law Firm Marketing https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/05/community-table-the-five-commandments-of-law-firm-marketing/ Tue, 13 May 2025 11:00:15 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=39112 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

 

  • Grappling with a marketing refresh? Start with understanding you are an experiment of one. Asking someone else what’s working for them is a doorway to blind alleys. There is nobody just like you, so explore all options, ask yourself what you want to get out of it. You can’t copy what someone else does. 
  • Learn and live “The Five Commandments of Marketing.” Have a call to action, know what you want to get back for the marketing spend, evaluate your results, learn from the outcome, and commit to the full process (don’t skip a step).
  • Hiring a marketing agency is tricky. Manage the agency. Don’t let them take over. Hold them accountable with weekly meetings and reports. Make sure the agency has worked in your field and knows your market. Understand where your money is going, what amount of your spend buys marketing and what pays the agency.

 

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Rebranding: Define Your Firm, Define Your Practice https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/04/rebranding-define-your-firm-define-your-practice/ Tue, 29 Apr 2025 11:00:02 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=39054  Not too long ago, law firms were discouraged from using trade names and “branding” themselves. But the world has changed, and branding today is a key part of your success. Is it time for your firm to get serious, or even consider a “rebranding?” 

 

Guest Jim Heininger, “The Rebrand Man,” founded and leads the firm Rebranding Experts. He is an experienced, highly successful brand consultant and brand activator. Branding, he says, is your strategic business accelerator, a “jet pack to success.” 

 

Don’t confuse branding with marketing. It goes deeper. Who are you? What’s your culture? What do people think about when they hear your firm’s name, and what do they expect from you? Hear how far you can go with your brand (and how far you should). 

 

Whatever you do, take a few minutes to soak up this insightful consultation with a branding expert who will get you thinking about who you are, what you stand for, and everything from your firm’s name to your message and culture.

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Community Table: Firing an Employee, Ever-changing Marketing, and Moving to a New City https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/04/community-table-firing-an-employee-ever-changing-marketing-and-moving-to-a-new-city/ Tue, 15 Apr 2025 11:00:42 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38949 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

 

  • An attorney realizes she’s waited too long to fire someone and knows there may be repercussions. But sometimes, the cost of keeping a problematic employee outweighs the consequences of letting them go. What’s best for the firm? What if you can’t fill the position and work piles up?
  • Nothing stays the same, even in marketing. Attorneys question the value of “pay per click” online advertising. Hear what firms are seeing, especially in Google ad words. Is the “golden age” of pay per click over? As rules change, you are one algorithm change from trouble. Communicate with your marketing team and diversify.                       
  • Imagine if you had to move to a new city, or if you simply wanted to. If it’s not a corporate gig, and you’re hanging out a shingle, it takes some work to ramp up. Network, network, network. Develop a marketing plan that ensures your name gets out and clients can find you. 

 

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Tax Strategies That Look Forward, Not Backward. Keep More, Pay Less. https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/03/tax-strategies-that-look-forward-not-backward-keep-more-pay-less/ Tue, 25 Mar 2025 11:00:11 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38839  It’s tax time. No, we’re not referring to a specific date. For your business, every day is tax time. Guests Jackie and Adam Williams are married and co-own Pennywise Tax Strategies, a firm focused on helping small businesses navigate tax codes to keep more of their hard-earned money. Jackie Williams is a CPA and veteran tax specialist, and Adam Williams is an attorney and serial entrepreneur who became frustrated with large tax bills. 

Managing a business and your business taxes is more than handing over a stack of receipts to an accountant once a year. Many business owners don’t know enough about the tax system and miss opportunities to maximize earnings through intentional tax strategies throughout the year. Look at the future, not the past, when you think about taxes. 

Payroll, cash flow, metrics, records all matter and all fit together every day, not just at the end of the tax year. This requires a shift in your mindset. Keep more of your money, reinvest it in your business, and get more out of life. 

Tax strategy is not just for billionaires, it’s for you. Understand incentives baked into the tax code and how you can use tactics including the switch from sole proprietor to LLC or S Corp structures. Think this isn’t for you? Wait until you hear how much money, real money, you can save. Hear the actionable things you can start doing today.

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Community Table: The Difference Between a Manager and a PLA https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/03/community-table-the-difference-between-a-manager-and-a-pla/ Tue, 11 Mar 2025 11:00:41 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38748 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • PLA? Professional law firm administrators. What you need to know and what they do. It’s not an office manager and it’s not an administrative assistant. Hear why you might need a PLA. As your firm grows, are you spending more time “running the business” than attracting clients and winning cases? Maybe you need a PLA. 
  • While we’re at it, how about a non-attorney salesperson. Someone who is passionate will build your firm beyond simply sales. Propelling your brand is as important as getting a signature on the dotted line. Compensation, goals, motivation, there are so many factors.
  • Understanding the difference between “wealth” and “money” is critical to your business. Money spent builds client lists (SEO, advertising, Google ranking), but building a referral network through a solid reputation builds wealth that never stops. One takes cash, one takes time, effort, and commitment.
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Embrace The Metrics. What’s Working (And Who’s Paying The Bills?) https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/02/embrace-the-metrics-whats-working-and-whos-paying-the-bills/ Tue, 25 Feb 2025 12:00:57 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38685 We all try, but who really measures? Who’s paying you on time? If you don’t know, it’s hard to know if the business is working. It comes down to cash flow. And, frankly, lawyering is a business. 

Guest Karl Maier is a CFO and a business advisor at Abunden. He specializes in helping growing business manage systems and cash flow and putting it all into measurable terms. As you grow, you must know if the cash flow is growing. Maier helps businesses spot problems they aren’t facing today but may need to confront six months down the road.   

A growing business can appear profitable in the short term and still face a cash flow problem down the road. Paying staff and keeping the lights on as you grow requires cash and timely client payments. It’s a delicate game. You need to be sure clients are paying, and sometimes that’s elusive. 

If you’re a growing firm, or you want to be a growing firm, this episode will get you thinking. And it should. Nobody gets excited about spreadsheets – especially lawyers – but if you’re intent on growing your business, you must do this. 

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Community Table: Work the Room! Actually Networking at a Networking Event https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/02/community-table-work-the-room-actually-networking-at-a-networking-event/ Tue, 11 Feb 2025 12:00:06 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38585 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • Getting the most out of your next networking event means actually networking with new people, not simply socializing with the people you already know. It’s OK if you don’t love networking events, but you do need to go to them.
  • Your next networking event starts before you get to the door. Do some research, get in touch with the leaders of the program prior to the day. Introduce yourself in an email and let them know how eager you are to meet them and others.
  • Consider making your own name tag, something that clearly communicates who you are. Maybe even wear a distinctive article of clothing, something that makes it easy for others to remember you. “She always wears yellow,” or “He has the red pocket square.” (And please, carry business cards!)
  • Knowing how to network isn’t a given. If you’re in a leadership position at your firm, take a moment to teach younger associates how to work the room and develop connections. They don’t teach this in law school. 

 

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Becoming “Future You.” Tools To Get YOU Moving In 2025 https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/01/becoming-future-you-tools-to-get-you-moving-in-2025/ Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:00:32 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38480 Don’t think of December as the end of the year. Think of it as a chance to plan ahead for an exciting, purposeful, and opportunity-filled new year.

Guest Andrea Liebross is the founder of her own firm, Andrea Liebross Coaching. She believes setting and achieving big audacious goals are best tackled through the implementation of solid systems, real goals, and the right (and ambitious) mindset. 

Are you getting where you want to go? Too often, we set our own limits. We stay safe and we stay small. We do things the way we’ve always done them because it’s safe. Hear how setting “big” goals and stretching your thinking helps you become “future you.” Give yourself permission to find out what you really want and where you want to be. And then make a plan to get there. 

Learn about Liebross’ “Think Big Toolkit” and the five components that can help you become “future you.” Don’t wait for things to happen to you, make the things you want happen.

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Community Table: Off On The Right Foot In 2025 https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2025/01/community-table-off-on-the-right-foot-in-2025/ Tue, 14 Jan 2025 12:00:31 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38405 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • New year, new plan. And that’s the key: plan. Don’t stumble blind into 2025, instead hear what the experts say about reviewing the previous year and setting goals for the new one. Don’t keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.
  • Sometimes your ship needs a rudder. If you need a COO, an “executive officer,” to manage the practice, part-time help is available. Experienced administrators take a load off your shoulders and teach others how to set a course and get where you want to go.
  • What to do when an associate can’t manage retainers and payments? Being a good lawyer is only part of the job, making sure the firm gets paid is the other part. Sometimes an associate isn’t good at communicating financial information with a client. But if you’re a business owner, you have a responsibility to make sure the firm makes money.
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Think Strategy. Making the Most of Your Firm for You and Your Team https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/12/think-strategy-making-the-most-of-your-firm-for-you-and-your-team/ Tue, 24 Dec 2024 12:00:13 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38319 Guest M.C. Laubscher is the founder of Producers Wealth and an author, speaker, and podcaster who aims to help business owners create and build wealth for themselves, their families, and their team. 

How do you look at the path to building your firm and your wealth? It’s not intuitive. It takes thought, effort, and time. How’s your cash flow, and how much time do you spend thinking about it? Sometimes as a business owner you get so caught up in the day-to-day that you may not be spending enough time working on your financial picture. Hear how finance, scale, and cash flow management can build your business. And make no mistake, a law firm is a business. 

Hear about the small things you can do within your business that make your business work for you.

There may be no greater return than investing in your own business. Never doubt what you can do if you believe in yourself and your business. Hear how you can allocate capital more effectively for greater returns from your own business. As Laubscher says, “You don’t have to be a Rockefeller to do what the Rockefellers do.”

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Community Table: Setting Real Goals (And Taking Some Time For Yourself) https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/12/community-table-setting-real-goals-and-taking-some-time-for-yourself/ Tue, 10 Dec 2024 12:00:59 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38218 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • There’s a time to take stock and reset. Understanding what you value and your internal motivations will help you guide your law firm’s growth. Think about what gets you out of bed and into the office each day. For most, it’s more than money. Know the difference between growing and truly building. Purpose and intentional goals matter more than billing.
  • It’s the holiday season, and who doesn’t want to take off work for an extended period to be with friends and family. But for law firm owners and leaders, the question is how? Set the pieces in place that will allow you to turn over the business to employees, such as an established chain of command and communication expectations. Try a test period to see how things go when others have to step up and run the office.
  • And finally, let’s talk about recognizing and coming to grips with “red flags” from a job candidate. Sometimes … you just know. 
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Get Comfortable, Get Busy: Networking And Media Relations. Yes. You. Can. https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/11/get-comfortable-get-busy-networking-and-media-relations-yes-you-can/ Tue, 26 Nov 2024 12:00:07 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38121 What can you do to attract more business to your firm? Let’s talk about acquisitions through networking. Guest Janet Falk, Ph.D., is a communications professional with more than 30 years of experience helping small and solo firms get better at finding (and signing) more clients. Falk is the chief strategist at Falk Communications and Research. 

This is a free lesson in media and public and personal relations, from being the “go-to” for news reporters, mastering marketing communications, and acquiring new clients through personal relationships. This is all about meeting and exceeding your business goals. Falk is a frequent author, speaker, and an industry-leading communications consultant. 

How do you shape a news story that boosts your case? Who are you trying to reach in the media, and how do you get out front? How do you keep your firm top-of-mind? How do you present yourself at networking events? 

Even if you’re a secret introvert, this episode is for you. You can “get out there” and build your business, make connections, attract referrals, and tell your story. Learn techniques to prepare and benefit from networking events from the minute you walk in the door. These are valuable tips you won’t find anywhere else (hint, it includes the two things you must bring to any event).

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Community Table: 2024 Year End: What’s Your Business Plan for 2025? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/11/community-table-2024-year-end-whats-your-business-plan-for-2025/ Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:00:04 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38010 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • Returning Guest Danielle Hendon, CPA, founder of 4 Corners CFO, explores what lawyers and law firms should, and should not, be doing in the fourth quarter of 2024. Learn the common mistakes firms make as the year winds down. 
  • Take the time to understand the story your business “numbers” are telling you. Do you see where your business is going and what you should be thinking about as you forecast for next year? Be intentional about your growth. Don’t let things “happen to” your firm, make them happen. 
  • It’s OK to spend as needed at the end of the year, especially if you’re thinking of taxes. But you’ve got to be looking ahead, too. What’s important, how do you manage a budget, understand what’s budgeting and what’s forecasting? Don’t spend just for short term tax advantages, plan for the unexpected too. 
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Today’s Tech: Tools, Not Toys. What You Need Now. https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/10/todays-tech-tools-not-toys-what-you-need-now/ Tue, 29 Oct 2024 11:00:47 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=37913 Let’s talk about technology and how it fits into your practice. Fact is, the old yellow pad and document boxes are no longer your friends. Your clients expect you to use technology to be more efficient and effective. 

Guest Richard “Rich” Dukes Jr. has gone paperless. So has his entire South Carolina law firm. Today’s tech drives efficiency whether that’s in document review, witness preparation, or even courtroom presentation. 

Hear how Dukes evaluates each evolution of tech tools, how he decides if they will truly elevate his productivity, and how easy they will be to introduce to his colleagues and incorporate them into his practice. 

Time is an attorney’s most valuable commodity. Technology can give you more time. Coming next, AI. Dukes has some ideas of where artificial intelligence may upend the next generation of legal tech tools. Put down the pen and pad and start working smarter today. 

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Community Table: The ROI of hiring. Landing Potential Clients. And Incentives. https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/10/community-table-the-roi-of-hiring-landing-potential-clients-and-incentives/ Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:00:13 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=37816 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • The ROI of hiring. It’s important. You may think hiring someone, say a paralegal, will cost you money. Successful firms won’t consider hiring someone if they don’t already know they’re going to make money. Firms use benchmarks to weigh the cost of a new hire against anticipated additional revenue. This is math, not “gut feeling,” and you can do it! Listen to find out how.
  • Dive into the results of a legal industry “secret shopper” study by Clio. The scientific data shows law firms stink at answering calls, responding to emails, and even monitoring chatbots. The first rule of success? When a potential client knocks, open the door. Can AI help?
  • How do you incentivize a high performing team? What kind of rewards are appropriate? And if your team is already firing on all cylinders, what else can you incentivize? Hear how you can help high performers earn more and grow by finding new tasks where they can take over and excel.  
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No More Billable Hours: The Move To Value-Based, Results-Based Pricing https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/09/no-more-billable-hours-the-move-to-value-based-results-based-pricing/ Tue, 24 Sep 2024 11:00:12 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=37658 Guest Shaun Jardine is an unapologetic disrupter in the world of pricing and billing by lawyers and law firms. He’s leading the charge to move from traditional billable hour pricing – charging for time – to the emerging revolution of value-based pricing. Charge for the results you achieve for your clients, not the time you spent getting there.

Are you still charging for time? Why not base your pricing on your experience, your wisdom, your education, the outcomes your clients want, and everything you bring to the table. Clients don’t want your time, they want their problems solved.

It’s not “the way we’ve always done things,” but Jardine explains why change is inevitable. As technology, notably AI, accelerates the practice of law, why should a lawyer charge less – fewer billable hours – for achieving results faster and more efficiently? 

The move to value-based pricing isn’t like flipping a switch. It will take effort, and it will involve your entire team, from HR to marketing, to lawyers and paralegals. But in a changing world, sticking with the old ways may not be an option. This fascinating conversation will ignite your curiosity and challenge you to think differently. 

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Community Table: Managing Communications As Client Volume Grows https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/09/community-table-managing-communications-as-client-volume-grows/ Tue, 10 Sep 2024 11:00:04 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=37448 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • Growing pains. As you bring on new clients, it can be hard for an overburdened team of lawyers and paralegals to manage client communications. Hear how texting can help bridge communication needs, how a virtual receptionist can fill gaps, and how a standing schedule of update calls and a task assignment system can ensure clear communications between lawyers and clients.
  • ·What is the “rhythm/parking lot” method for managing client communications? Combined with allowing clients to schedule their own appointments online and chat functions, this system can take pressure off your staff.
  • Be honest and direct with your clients. Set expectations and ask clients if your expectations and theirs align, so they know how the case will proceed. And if a client “emergency” arises, be sure your staff asks the right questions and fully understands the situation so they can provide clear details to the attorney.
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Is Your Small Firm Missing A Chief Financial Officer? Rent One. https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/08/is-your-small-firm-missing-a-chief-financial-officer-rent-one/ Tue, 27 Aug 2024 11:00:49 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=37309 How are you doing? Not you, personally, your business. Do you know? Because many small businesses, including small law firms, don’t have a true CFO, someone who doesn’t just do your taxes, but who helps you understand your business, your bottom line, and your future. 

Danielle Hendon is the founder and CEO of 4 Corners CFO, bringing the benefit of “big business” financial analysis to entrepreneurs and business owners at a cost they can afford. She and her firm are “fractional CFOs,” providing the analysis and planning you need to stabilize your business, develop consistent revenue models, and grow with a goal in mind. 

Hendon helps businesses, like yours, evaluate where they are, how things are doing, what your “real profit” is, and how to set and move toward goals. 

Allocating overhead, hiring, understanding gross and net profit, and growing with purpose is all doable. Hear about “bottom-up budgeting,” understanding cash flow forecasts and how a CFO, even a part time CFO, can help spot red flags and build the pillars that will lift your business. 

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Community Table: CRMs, Hiring Done Right, and Value vs. Discounts https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/08/community-table-crms-hiring-done-right-and-value-vs-discounts/ Tue, 13 Aug 2024 11:00:35 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=37246 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • Adding a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) program for your law firm? Hear the struggles one small firm is facing as it looks to automate CRM duties. Start with knowing what you need, how you’ll keep up with clients and follow up on leads. Software is just a tool. Without a plan, it’s useless. Start with a “sequence of contact” (and no BS). 
  • “Misfiring” when you hire a new associate can be a headache (and expensive). How do you make sure it’s a good fit before you hire, instead of learning you made a mistake later? Treat recruiting as marketing. Start with a clear message. Know what you want and tell people. 
  • Are you offering discounts? Here’s the thing: people don’t always want discounts; they want value. A good deal isn’t about money, it’s about service. Give clients more, don’t charge less. Make them feel special. (Do you know what a lagniappe is?)
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Special Episode: Get Real. Stop Kidding Yourself. Make Your Firm Profitable https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/07/special-episode-get-real-stop-kidding-yourself-make-your-firm-profitable/ Tue, 23 Jul 2024 11:00:26 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=37066 In this special, high-energy episode, we’re getting down and dirty and talking about fixing your firm. Consider this is a “visit to the doctor.” What’s ailing your firm? Guest RJon Robins is the founder and CEO of the firm How To Manage A Small Law Firm. He fixes things. Get real about the cost of client acquisition, marketing, revenue building, financial control, and finally your life as a business owner. 

Start with knowing that when you hang out a shingle, you run a business. You just happen to be a lawyer. Lots of lawyers have gone through what you’ve gone through. How do you turn your passion for the law into a profitable business? 

Hear how you can focus on the fundamentals of running a real business. Law firms are simple, at their core. Don’t overthink it. Lawyers have been running businesses for a thousand years. Learn the core nuggets that will drive your business. No fads, just the honest realities of business. No excuses. 

Learn how your firm can serve you, instead of you sacrificing for your firm. Get fired up, take charge, and get ahead.

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Community Table: Troublesome Employees, Offshoring, and Atypical Marketing https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/07/community-table-troublesome-employees-offshoring-and-atypical-marketing/ Tue, 09 Jul 2024 11:00:47 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36973 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • A firm owner dealing with discipline problems stemming from her firm’s understaffing is frustrated. Feeling they have the upper hand, some employees are taking advantage of the situation. How can the owner regain control?
  • What’s the best way to staff up? In-office, remote, or even offshoring some tasks? Christopher and guest Joey Seeber of Level Legal share tips about building a team, from in-house to offshore. 
  • An attorney wants to know if he should borrow to expand his firm in a competitive market. It’s OK to borrow money, but only if you start knowing how you plan to pay it back and what you expect in return. 
  • Evaluating the results of an affinity or educational marketing plan when there’s no direct call to action. It all comes down to new client acquisition and the Five Commandments of Marketing! 
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Engagement for Law Firm Leadership: Get the Most From Your Team https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/06/engagement-for-law-firm-leadership-get-the-most-from-your-team/ Tue, 25 Jun 2024 11:00:34 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36841 Law firms often focus on revenue generation, client retention, and financial performance. But guest Tracy LaLone says true success is driven by the (very real) people who work at the firm. Firms that fail to engage and recognize their people, she says, can never reach their full potential. 

LaLonde is a corporate trainer who focuses on engagement within law firms. She has more than 30 years’ experience in corporate training and helps firms focus on the involvement, commitment, and enthusiasm workers feel for their workplace. 

Surveys show only 30% of American workplaces are considered “engaged.” So, there’s room to grow if you know how important engagement is to your firm’s success. How eager are employees to get to work each day? How valued do they feel? Are you focusing on billable hours at the expense of your team’s wellbeing and sense of purpose? 

LaLonde explains how she targets law firm burnout and underperformance through her Hierarchy of Engagement, a pyramid of workforce factors including pay, performance, and perks; work/life balance; and a shared purpose. Learn key tips you can put to work at your firm today to nurture engagement and achieve peak performance.

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Community Table: Branding vs. Marketing (And How to Use Both) https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/06/community-table-branding-vs-marketing-and-how-to-use-both/ Tue, 11 Jun 2024 11:00:33 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36686 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • A lawyer who’s falling behind wants to know why her leads are down. Should she focus on “branding” or “marketing,” and what’s the difference? While they are both part of attracting new business, they aren’t one in the same. 
  • Branding is important. Be authentic. Who are you? What are your values? You can’t fake it, you live it. And you don’t make it up as you go, you intentionally think about who you are and develop a consistent look, tone, feel, values, and mission across your firm. 
  • Messaging, marketing, and a clear call to action is something different. It costs money. Pay per click, local service ads, billboards, and more are about delivering a compelling message that drives potential clients to call you. Learn the “Five Commandments of Marketing.”   
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It’s About You: Surviving (And Thriving) In Your High-Stress Career. https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/05/its-about-you-surviving-and-thriving-in-your-high-stress-career/ Tue, 28 May 2024 14:00:27 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36596 Guest Charlène Gisèle is a former big-firm litigator turned professional high-performance coach. This show is about you. It’s about you being your best, taking better care of you, and avoiding burnout and other health issues. 

It’s no secret, the legal profession is a field filled with stress. Deadlines, precision, scheduling, marketing, and running a business. It’s a lot for anyone to handle. Gisèle helps her clients improve their well-being, increase productivity, and maintain a sustainable practice.

It’s great to set goals, even ambitious goals, at the start of every new year. But don’t forget to take a moment to make a plan for yourself and how you’ll keep going, day after day, with so much weight on your shoulders. 

Hear how Gisèle used her own experience and a lot of professional research and training to develop a coaching method that helps stressed professionals enjoy their life and stay healthy. “You can have all the success in the world,” she says, “but if you’re not going to be around to see it, how much success is that truly going to be?” Do you feel stressed? Exhausted? Isolated? Do you know the symptoms of burnout? This is a podcast for you. You are not alone. 

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Community Table: Hiring Your First Employee And A “Second In Command” https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/05/community-table-hiring-your-first-employee-and-a-second-in-command/ Tue, 14 May 2024 11:00:42 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36531 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • Who should a solo attorney hire first? You’re building your firm. Who’s the next person you add to add (and you want avoid the wrong hire)? For starters, what do you need? Where are you wasting time? From there, “hiring is marketing,” it’s crucial you attract the largest pool of great candidates. 
  • How do you prepare a job candidate for your hiring process? Start by being transparent. It’s that easy. “Hey, here’s our process, it may be different from what you’ve done before.” The important thing is to find what’s not only right for you, but what’s right for the new hire. And if they start by questioning your process, move on. 
  • How do you introduce your “second in command” to your team? Maybe that’s the wrong question. “Second” in command suggests you still want people to report to you. You don’t. The whole idea is to offload daily decisions so you can focus on strategy and bigger things. There’s no “second in command,” there’s the “here’s the new person in charge for all of you.” Your language can sabotage your intentions. 
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The Nexus of Intake and Marketing. Convert Leads Into Clients https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/04/the-nexus-of-intake-and-marketing-convert-leads-into-clients/ Tue, 23 Apr 2024 11:00:14 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36443 Marketing and sales are keys to building your business. But where do they meet? It takes two to tango, and “Intake” is the junction. Good intake is always worth the effort. 

Guest Bo Royal is co-founder of Pareto Legal and has worked with several Fortune 1,000 companies and scores of law firms. He specializes in helping small and medium sized law firms build their business and strengthen their intake process. 

Data tracking and quality matters. Follow the trail, understand how the marketing funnel is working and where to get prospects in the door and sign that retainer. Intake is about nurturing inbound leads – the results of your advertising and marketing – and turning them into clients.

Intake can make or break all of your marketing and sales efforts. Don’t build a “leaky bucket.” You worked hard, and spent a lot, to develop leads. This is an important episode that can help you go that last mile from generating interest to capturing revenue. Track the “journey” of every prospect. It’s not luck, it’s a process. 

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Community Table: Real AI Uses For Legal Work, Marketing ROI, and Paid Consultations https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/04/community-table-real-ai-uses-for-legal-work-marketing-roi-and-paid-consultations/ Tue, 09 Apr 2024 11:00:29 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36349 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table: 

  • AI is all the rage in the public media, but how are lawyers using it in real life? For starters, it can help you with written communications. Tone down an angry brief or client communication. Write advertising or blog communications. Even create Excel formulas. (But remember, it’s a tool, not a replacement for your skills!). 
  • How do you convey the value of a paid consultation? Help clients understand what they get by paying for a professional consultation. Sometimes it starts with an explanation that every case is different, and only a paid consultation can explore all available options before hiring an attorney. Tell prospects what they can expect from you and your conversation is more than a sales call.
  • Marketing is important. And it’s expensive. How do you know when you’re getting the right ROI? It takes some math. Do you know how much you’re spending and how many paying clients are a direct result?

Plus, the risks and rewards of posting your firm’s phone number prominently. Sometimes putting your number out there generates spam and time-wasting calls when a simple online scheduling tool could be more efficient. What’s right for you?

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Good Growth (And Bad Growth): Build Your Business Intentionally https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/03/good-growth-and-bad-growth-build-your-business-intentionally/ Tue, 26 Mar 2024 11:00:37 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36269 Business and professional growth are at the core of your business. This episode is about growth. Growing your business intentionally. Are you working “for your business” or “in your business?” Guest and growth guru Rick Watson helps business owners – like you – go beyond daily tasks to focus on real growth. 

Watson started his consulting dynasty with a dream and twenty bucks in his pocket. He’s now the successful owner of several businesses, including a half billion-dollar registered investment advisory, and he’s the founder the National Referral Network. He walks the walk and provides solid insights. 

Learn to think like an entrepreneur, not a practitioner. Don’t set artificial limits on your business. This is a deep dive, and it may force you to think. It’s about culture, goals, hiring, and about directing your firm and your future with purpose. If you’re on a treadmill running daily operations and chasing leads, you may be letting your business and your opportunities slip away. Separate good growth from bad growth, cut the mundane tasks, and energize your firm today. 

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Community Table: How To Measure Your Hiring, Avoid The Bull$#!*. https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/03/community-table-how-to-measure-your-hiring-avoid-the-bull/ Tue, 12 Mar 2024 11:00:54 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36203 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table:

  • We start with an attorney who wants to balance hiring and firm growth. What happens when you hire “too much” team for the work or have “too much work” for the team? It’s a delicate dance. Start with a business plan and control the one thing you can, the number of cases you accept. It’s OK to say no to a new potential client. (Plus, find out what Christopher calls a “bull$#!* plan”).
  •  What happens when you haven’t explored new ways to market and you fall behind? No use crying over spilt milk, but honestly, get on it. You start from where you are. Understand what you’re doing, what’s working, and what’s failing. A swift kick in the pants may get you motivated.
  • And how do you help a long-standing employee establish some metrics, mainly a minimum billable hour requirement? Be straightforward, but it’s a balancing act. Sometimes you gotta be cruel to be kind (in the right measure).
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The Human In The Machine, “Natural” VS. “Artificial” Intelligence https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/02/the-human-in-the-machine-natural-vs-artificial-intelligence/ Tue, 27 Feb 2024 12:00:49 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36129 Production and technology are inextricably intertwined. That doesn’t mean online tech replaces the human touch. It means today’s tech tools can help you better serve clients. But you still need to ask, anticipate, listen, and deliver. Guest Joey Seeber – an experienced litigator and the founder of the legal tech consulting and implementation company Level Legal – explores how tech and humans work together. 

The legal world has become a digital jungle. Virtually everything is digitized. But untangling the bits and bytes and preparing them for courtroom presentation takes know-how and careful thought. There is no longer simply “acceptance” of technology; instead, technical competence is expected. 

The trick is finding the perfect point where tech meets the human touch, allowing lawyers to best serve clients and to meet needs and understand things that go unsaid. From eDiscovery to AI, the tools are out there. But the human application of those tools makes the real difference. How well do you understand your role as a human in a high-tech world? What makes you stand out? Hear some great tips about using the right tech while bringing your own special touch to surprise and delight your clients.

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Community Table: The Dos and Don’ts of Law Firm Resolutions For 2024 https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/02/community-table-the-dos-and-donts-of-law-firm-resolutions-for-2024/ Mon, 12 Feb 2024 16:00:04 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36058 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table: 

  • It’s a new year. The “Dos and Don’ts of New Year’s Resolutions.” It’s OK to set goals, heck, it’s great. But be reasonable, mindful even. There is no “magical thinking” that everything will change if you wish it. Review your past, understand yourself, share your vision. And if you need an unbiased opinion, ask someone.
  • The dreaded sales slump isn’t cause for panic. If something has changed, your conversions fall off a cliff, take a deep breath and a logical approach. Don’t dash around like a squirrel in the road. You’ll find the flaw and correct it.
  • Building your team isn’t easy, but if you take an open approach, you can do it. Interviewing a prospective team member is a marketing process – from both sides. You want to learn as much as you can about each other. If you have to spend some time and money getting it right, there’s nothing wrong with that. 
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Legal Tech, The End Of The Law As We Know It? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/01/legal-tech-the-end-of-the-law-as-we-know-it/ Tue, 23 Jan 2024 12:00:05 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35983 Technology has quickly become a topic that touches everything in the legal world. You can’t escape it. While learning to embrace the latest in legal tech is vital to the success of your firm, it doesn’t have to be overwhelming.

We’re talking on this episode about how today’s emerging tech trends impact every aspect of your law firm – from client acquisition, to producing results, to generating profit – with guest Colin Levy, an author, speaker, and leader in the world of legal tech.

But just buying a tech package won’t deliver value. Incorporating today’s new tech tools, understanding how they work, and truly understanding them (and then actually using them) is what drives value. Take the time to understand what you need, what problems you’re solving, then seek out the tech that actually gets you to your destination. 

Things are changing, and the rate of acceleration is accelerating, and we’re just getting started. Imagine AI drives the pace of change even faster. Before our eyes, technology is redefining what it means to be a lawyer.

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Community Table: Keys to an Effective Landing Page https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2024/01/community-table-keys-to-an-effective-landing-page/ Tue, 09 Jan 2024 15:40:11 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35938 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table: 

  • Building an effective landing page is critical to making the most of your pay-per-click marketing dollars. Getting “clicks” is one thing, but then what? Hear how to craft a landing page that drives visitors to the next step: hiring you. Go beyond “call now.” Show why you’re the lawyer for the job. What makes you different?
  • Referrals can be a big part of building your business, but getting them takes careful marketing and effective business relationships. It’s a two-way street. Be a friend to have a friend. It comes down to communication: if done well, it can be your cheapest marketing tool
  • Building your business strategically helps you manage cash flow. If your practice area is too broad, you may be spreading your time across too many channels. And that can lead to cash shortfalls throughout the year. Understand what your business is really about and focus on that.
  • You’re thinking of breaking away from a firm and starting your own practice? Hear some real-world advice from lawyers who have been there, done that.
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Separating The Wheat From The Chaff In Legal Tech (And AI) https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/12/separating-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-in-legal-tech-and-ai/ Tue, 26 Dec 2023 12:00:49 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35866 How to choose the legal tech that’s right for your firm, and how to reject the rest, without getting overwhelmed. What’s denying yourself and what’s overindulging? It can be overwhelming. 

Guest Jared Correia helps law firms understand available technology and separate what’s helpful from what’s simply bright and shiny. 

Correia looks at software from several angles: Intake, e-signature, customer relationship management, and performance monitoring. All are important, but how do they fit together? Ask yourself what you like about the software you have, and what do you hate, then what do you want, and finally what do you need.

Most firms probably don’t need all the hardware they have in the office, including the servers and data storage. The cloud – data management by firms that specialize in secure data management – is the future.

Learn the secrets of the “Core Four” of software: Productivity; Accounting; Case Management Software; and Customer Relationship Management. Hear how these bedrock systems are the foundation of any successful firm. Wait … what about what about AI?

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Community Table: Establishing Office Computer Policies (Think Security) https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/12/community-table-establishing-office-computer-policies-think-security/ Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:00:02 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35775 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table: 

  • A firm owner needs a computer policy for employees both in-office and working from home. What policies should she have for damage to the firm’s computers and client security? There’s insurance for physical damage. More important is protecting client data if a laptop is stolen or hacked. How can you protect client confidentiality, both for staff in the office and working from home? Is a contract IT team the answer?
  • How do you split tasks between two admins? Hear how you can divide tasks to match each employee’s area of excellence. Carving out niches so each employee delivers maximum value creates a foundation for growth. 
  • You’ve hired a new employee, but they aren’t catching on. How much time do you allow before you know it’s not working, and you need to let them go? There is a reasonable period to expect results. It’s OK to be patient and retrain as needed, but don’t carry dead weight.
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Training Lawyers For Success || Meeting The Need For Legal Education https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/11/training-lawyers-for-success-meeting-the-need-for-legal-education/ Tue, 28 Nov 2023 12:00:25 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35675 Throughout his career in “big law” and fintech, guest Abdi Shayesteh struggled with the legal profession’s lack of formal training. “It was sink or swim” with every new challenge, he says. There had to be another way to help associates become better lawyers. 

Law school may not fully prepare graduates to practice law, and the old apprenticeship model – learning on the job – has fallen apart as new lawyers are expected to produce billable hours from the start, and clients expect to pay for results, not teaching new lawyers.

After practicing law for years, Shayesteh founded AltaClaro, an online platform built to train law school graduates how to actually practice law by applying practical skills training in a structured, online environment. Attorneys deserve better, and so do clients. 

Hear how AltaClaro’s approach combines experiential learning techniques to help attorneys build skills and confidence in a low-risk environment. Lawyers learn, do, and review at their own pace with practice documents, contracts, and clients. Then they go through each exercise with a live, experienced, vetted professional.  

New attorneys get the skills they need, and firms get the fully trained associates they want.

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Community Table: A Compensation Plan For Associate Referrals https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/11/community-table-a-compensation-plan-for-associate-referrals/ Tue, 14 Nov 2023 12:00:38 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35592 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table: 

  • We start with an attorney who wants to create a fair referral compensation policy for his associate, a “grinder” who does everything asked. Recently, through a contact, the associate started bringing in new business. How does a firm set up a referral fee schedule? What’s fair to the associate and the firm?
  • How to create effective, inviting “meet the attorney” videos as a relationship-building step with potential clients. What to include? What topics? How personal? Where do you post them on your website, or do you control when a potential client sees these? 
  • When it’s time for a managing attorney or a director of operations, start by understanding the duties of each position and the experiences needed. One position requires a background in law; the other needs experience running a business (that includes facilities management, finance, and the overall operation of your office). 
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In The Niches: Advanced SEO That Fuels Your Firm https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/10/in-the-niches-advanced-seo-that-fuels-your-firm/ Tue, 24 Oct 2023 11:00:40 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35474 When it comes to law firm marketing, what is “niching?” Guest Chris Dreyer founded and leads the Search Engine Optimization (SEO) marketing firm Rankings.io. In a thoughtful, in-depth interview, Dreyer shares how to make your law firm stand out in a crowded field when you stop trying to be everything to everyone. 

Be memorable. Share what makes you special. 

SEO is often portrayed as sorcery, but it’s not. It’s math, it’s work, and it’s attention to detail. Learn about the “Four C’s” of online marketing and what makes your firm stand out when a potential client types a need into a search engine: Content, Capital, Collaboration, and Code. 

Dreyer explains what makes websites work, what makes content special, and how putting yourself out there as an expert in a specific area drives referrals and attracts attention. 

A focus on SEO doesn’t work overnight. It’s a long-term play, but the benefits build on themselves and stock a client pipeline that can grow your firm as your reputation and visibility compound your efforts. Trying to “game the system” doesn’t work. There’s no substitution for sincerity, authenticity, and hard work. 

Hear how you can get started and stay focused (and some common mistakes you can avoid) from an industry expert with a history of helping firms find new clients. 

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Community Table: When It’s Time To Grow, What To Do Next? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/10/community-table-when-its-time-to-grow-what-to-do-next/ Tue, 10 Oct 2023 11:00:09 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35364 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table: 

  • We present an extended conversation with guest consultants Robert Leitner and Philip Fairley as they guide a lawyer ready to grow her personal injury and Social Security law firm and discuss how to hire the right people for a developing case load. Does she need another legal assistant, or a medical records clerk, or an intake professional? 
  • With some practices – such as the “work now, collect later” world of PI and Social Security – it’s possible to “grow broke” by pouring too much capital into the business while waiting for payment. These are complicated issues as one attorney struggles to do everything from adding new cases and practicing law to marketing, growing, and even managing human resources. Some staffers add to overhead, and some are virtual ATMs building your firm’s revenue. 
  • Learn how customer relation management tools convert leads into clients. Efficiency could unlock the cash flow you need to build your practice and add attorneys or support staff. Plus, the importance of a truly targeted marketing platform.
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Using AI To Land Better Cases? Why Not? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/09/using-ai-to-land-better-cases-why-not/ Tue, 26 Sep 2023 11:00:25 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35279 Let’s talk about production and winning cases. It’s not only about acquiring new clients, but also acquiring new clients that can deliver results. A potential breakthrough using Artificial Intelligence, AI.

How do we frame, understand, and implement the best of AI’s capabilities? Lawyers need to tread lightly, even as AI is becoming increasingly important in the field of law. Data is often “dirty,” unstructured, not built to serve. A properly “trained” AI program organizes these fields into useful information.  

Guests Evyatar Ben Artzi and Gila Hayat are co-founders of Darrow.AI. Darrow’s AI-powered Justice Intelligence Platform scans real world data to detect harmful events, determine the number of potential victims, predict the legislative outcome, and assess the financial value of a case to help firms locate and organize potentially important cases. No more chasing your tail or casting the widest net possible.

Across the law, from financial misconduct to environmental protection to pharmaceuticals, there is data out there that creates patterns if you know where and how to look. Properly managing raw data may allow firms to find new clients and tell better stories more efficiently. Producing results starts before a case even walks through the door. 

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Community Table: Using Vacations to Strengthen Company Culture https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/09/community-table-using-vacations-to-strengthen-company-culture/ Tue, 12 Sep 2023 11:00:41 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35177 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table: 

  •  Our first topic is how to use vacations – including your own breaks – to affirm company culture. How do you get away without fully abandoning ship and leaving your team to fend for itself? You encourage team members to take vacations to renew and regroup, but what about you as the leader of the firm? Company culture starts at the top.
  •  Prevent your email and calendar from running your life and set your own priorities. Don’t let your email own you, and certainly don’t let your team run your life. You run your life. You run your firm. (It’s harder than that sounds
  • When is it appropriate to let an employee know the relationship isn’t working and it’s time to part ways? And, what’s an appropriate severance package

 Plus, let’s talk about how to grade support staff. Set expectations and reasonable goals so staffers know what’s expected and you know what to expect.

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Lost In Translation? Marketing To Spanish Speaking Communities https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/08/lost-in-translation-marketing-to-spanish-speaking-communities/ Tue, 22 Aug 2023 11:00:32 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35066 Is your marketing missing a key component, say, a way to reach Spanish speaking audiences? Many attorneys miss a large segment of their community that wants legal services, if only they would reach out. 

Guest Hugo Gomez founded and leads Abogados Now, a digital marketing company that helps connect attorneys in the U.S. with the Spanish-speaking communities around them. This is about more than hiring a translator, this is about understanding different cultures and reaching out to them. Go beyond adding a “Google Translate” button to your website. What works in English often doesn’t work in another language. Even in Spanish the language and nuances vary from country to country, community to community. 

Think it doesn’t matter? The Spanish speaking market is the fastest growing segment in the U.S., and nearly 1 in 5 people in the country have connections to Spanish speaking communities. The numbers don’t lie. It’s a massive market. But it’s not easy, and it takes experts who understand the cultures. Reaching out, effectively, to the Spanish speaking markets in your area can be your competitive edge. 

Learn the steps you can take to establish an entirely new arm to your marketing and the services you provide and the people you help. Learn about adding a layer of authenticity, understanding, and honest representation. What works, where do you present yourself, and how do you reach these markets?

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Community Table: Making Changes And Getting Paid https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/08/community-table-making-changes-and-getting-paid/ Tue, 08 Aug 2023 11:00:42 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34953 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table: 

Our first question turned into a collaborative discussion around the Community Table with input from several other lawyers. How does a longtime attorney with her own firm finally shake things up, turn operations over to someone else, and focus on strategy and the practice of law? It’s hard to let go of control, even with a consultant pitching in.

How do you market when money is tight, cash flow is low, and you need more dollars in the door? Start by knowing your practice. What’s the underlying issue, what kind of ship are you leading? From there you can spot opportunities and focus on revenue and marketing.

Thinking of making a pivot or expanding from your current area of practice to boost revenue? Consider what you enjoy doing and think about what areas of the law generate consistent, timely cash flow. 

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When It’s Time To Produce, It’s About Your Team: Who’s Running The Show? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/07/when-its-time-to-produce-its-about-your-team-whos-running-the-show/ Tue, 25 Jul 2023 11:00:40 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34873 Marketing, acquiring new business, and growing your firm are all important. But ultimately, any law firm has to produce results to scale, and that comes down to who you hire and how you manage, develop, and collaborate with your team. 

Guest Luis Scott is the owner and managing partner of Bader | Scott Injury Lawyers. In addition to running a firm responsible for millions of dollars in verdicts and settlements, Scott devotes time to consulting with other firms to help them grow their own revenue. 

Based in Atlanta, Scott understands a competitive market for client acquisition, but also for employee acquisition. How do you find, hire, and retain the best team? Hear how Scott and his firm identified and hired employees, then turned the best into leaders, freeing senior partners to focus on strategy. The bigger a firm grows, the more important a strategic, mindful approach becomes. How big do you want to grow? Three million in revenue? Eight million? Bigger? 

Scott explains how he structures a firm and positions leaders and employees for success. Founders of any firm are only one person. After a threshold, there’s nothing more they can do by themselves. That’s where it’s vital to develop leaders who can oversee individual parts of the business, everything from litigation to HR to marketing. 

If you lead a law firm of any size, consider this episode your own, personal consulting session that will help you organize and focus your efforts on growing your revenue and expanding your reach. (Plus, you’ll learn “The Five Ps” of law firm management.)

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Community Table: The Hiring (And Firing?) Edition https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/07/community-table-the-hiring-and-firing-edition/ Tue, 11 Jul 2023 11:00:11 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34805 In this episode’s discussions around the Community Table: 

  • Interview questions to ask that help you understand an applicant’s true motivations. Questions that dig a little deeper. And how to accept those answers at face value.
  • Ever had a terrible experience hiring someone? There are tools to help you avoid mistakes, but you have to learn how to use them. But there are no silver bullets. Go boldly, but tread lightly. 
  • Dealing with a new hire who won’t complete required training? Can you really require someone to learn, and if they won’t, is that grounds to terminate the relationship? This question quickly drifts into some interesting territory. 
  • And finally, how long can you keep a new attorney at your firm before they need to start returning a profit to the firm? Maybe while they learn the ropes, you can at least have them do something that delivers value. (You can only wait so long). 
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The Future Is Yours: Automation, Efficiency, And Scale https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/06/the-future-is-yours-automation-efficiency-and-scale/ Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:00:58 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34721 In this episode, we’ll talk “big picture.” Are you ready to scale up, build your client base, and be more successful?   

Guest Sam Mollaei is passionate about creating scalable law firms and helping others understand and implement his blueprint for going big while disrupting the traditional law firm model. He challenges firms to embrace automation, innovation, offshoring, and move beyond the old fashioned face-to-face, brick and mortar route. 

Mollaei employs the latest tools to beat the high cost of paid search, create efficient client intake processes, overcome SEO snags, find new ways around labor inefficiencies, and accelerate business development. And he’s just getting started as developments in artificial intelligence such as ChatGPT continue to evolve the business of law. 

Hear how Mollaei teaches firms to ride the wave instead of chasing it. Changes are coming fast, and everything is on the table. There’s a lot to learn, but adapting to this new environment is not an option, it’s the future. Be a part of it or be left behind.

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Community Table: Closing The Sale! Plus, Stalking The Niche Client https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/06/community-table-closing-the-sale-plus-stalking-the-niche-client/ Tue, 13 Jun 2023 11:00:46 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34558 In this episode’s discussion around the Community Table: 

  • Getting from “yes” to “signing the check.” How to accelerate and bullet-proof your sales cycle. Getting the client to go from agreeing to hire you to actually turning over that retainer.
  • Vaccinating the recruiter. Preparing a third-party recruiter with responses to a prospective employee’s objections. How do you arm a recruiter for a prospect’s “Yeah, but I heard they …”  
  • Stalking a specific type of client? Go where they are. If you’re the best in a niche field, where do you find the clients who need you, and how is that different from asking for referrals? And, Facebook vs. LinkedIn, your marketing dollars.
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Follow Up, Or Fall Behind: Converting The Lead https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/05/follow-up-or-fall-behind-converting-the-lead/ Tue, 23 May 2023 11:00:43 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34434 OK, you got the lead. The phone rang. But what happens next? How do you turn that lead into a client (and then retain that client for life)?

Guest Philip Fairley is the founder of The Rainmaker Institute, a legal marketing firm dedicated to generating leads, and then turning leads into clients through a data-driven approach. You’re more than an attorney, you’re a business owner. Run that business. Develop repeatable processes for turning each call into a client. It’s not about more leads, it’s about more clients. 

Let’s Talk Trends: 

  • It’s about video. Think multiple platforms, YouTube, Facebook, LinkedIn, email embeds. Every environment serves different needs.
  • It’s not about more leads, it’s what you do with the leads. Answer your phone, return messages, be human. Do you have a “Director of First Impressions?”
  • When on the phone, go beyond setting an appointment. Listen

Automation, specialization, and drilling down into what you do and how you communicate with potential clients builds your business. Tell clients what makes your firm – what makes you – special.

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Community Table: What To Fix When Revenue Dips || Designating Tasks, Trusting Your Team https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/05/community-table-what-to-fix-when-revenue-dips-designating-tasks-trusting-your-team/ Tue, 09 May 2023 11:00:23 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34341 In this episode’s discussion around the Community Table:

  • Why did your quarterly revenue plummet? Before you panic, look for anomalies like production capacity, weird payment timing, and changes in Google search algorithms. Fix what’s broken, but be rational. (What’s “Demand-Based Marketing?”)
  • Stop personally handling every little issue and designate tasks across your team. How to set boundaries and ween staff off your direct involvement in routine matters. Trust and empower your team.
  • How to use daily meetings – “huddles,” “scrums,” and “standups” – to facilitate peer management, teamwork, accountability, and productivity.
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Community Table: Say “No” Without Losing Clients || Expanding To A New Market https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/04/community-table-say-no-without-losing-clients-expanding-to-a-new-market/ Tue, 25 Apr 2023 11:00:55 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34219 In this episode’s discussion around the Community Table:

  • How to say no to some cases (without losing clients). It’s great to “niche down” to your expertise, but never say no. Say, “I know someone who can help.” Be both – the lawyer and the referral source.
  • When it’s time to grow into a new market, everything starts with location. Do the research, know the territory, and establish the “look” that meets client expectations.
  • Considering a new location? Clients will come to you, but your team is equally important. Your office location matters as much as your expertise, both for clients and team members.
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Can You Hear Me Now? Podcasts And Your (Legal) Marketing https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/04/can-you-hear-me-now-podcasts-and-your-legal-marketing/ Tue, 11 Apr 2023 11:00:17 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34099 Let’s talk about marketing (because we know you love to, the numbers don’t lie). But let’s talk about how podcasting fits into your law firm’s marketing mix.

Guest Robert Ingalls calls himself a “recovering attorney.” While he had a law degree and his own firm, Ingalls wasn’t happy and wanted to do something else. He landed on creating his own legal-oriented podcast … and something clicked. If he found value in creating a podcasts, so might other attorneys.

His company, LawPods, podcasting for lawyers, was born.

Ingalls knows you may be a great lawyer but don’t know anything about podcasting. With his experience, both in the field of law and in content production, he helps lawyers sound good, stay focused, and create a podcast people want to listen to again and again. Ingalls polishes and presents the best you.

How do you start? Find out on this episode of the Un-Billable Hour.

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Production: It Starts With Recruiting The Right People https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/03/production-it-starts-with-recruiting-the-right-people/ Tue, 28 Mar 2023 11:00:45 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33932 Guest Sandrene “Sandy” Ryan is the senior director of recruiting at Level Legal. She’s built a unique process that focuses on quality and creating “the right match” over putting bodies into slots. Culture fit can be more important than a specific skill. You can teach a skill, but you can’t make the wrong person fit your own culture.

Production is the lynchpin of your firm. Acquiring new clients and ensuring profit are the bookends, but we must produce. To do that, we need to recruit.

Finding the right people for your firm, whether it’s a contract hire or a full-time position is, at its heart, marketing. What’s your story? Do you know how to make your firm attractive to new hires. Do you understand what candidates are selling. It’s a two-way street. Learn how to create a process that makes candidates sign on with you, and also do their best work for you.

A quick match can be more of a time waster than a longer, thoughtful process.

You may be surprised at how the COVID pandemic’s shift to remote working created a wider pool of candidates. If someone doesn’t have to be in your office, you’ve got more to choose from. But it comes with new challenges as well. Nothing stays the same.

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Community Table: What Does Your Firm Really Do? Plus, Doing The Math, Adding Staff Can Boost Profits https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/03/community-table-what-does-your-firm-really-do-plus-doing-the-math-adding-staff-can-boosts-profits/ Tue, 14 Mar 2023 14:40:32 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33836 This episode’s discussion around the Community Table:

  • Sometimes when it comes to your brand and marketing, doing everything is doing nothing. What is it you want to be known for?
  • On the fence about hiring support staff? Do the math. Would more staff create more business, better reviews, and happier clients? The next step could be more profit.
  • Gamification – cash rewards for individual and team goals (even promotions) – can energize your team. Retain your best players. And what about offshoring some tasks?
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Community Table: Hiring a Contract Temp and Finding a “Serious” Job Applicant https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/02/community-table-hiring-a-contract-temp-and-finding-a-serious-job-applicant/ Tue, 28 Feb 2023 15:30:39 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33747 This episode’s discussion around the Community Table: 

  • Is hiring a temp I’ve already worked with previously a mistake?
    • “It’s not personal,” it’s personnel. I need a body, even if s/he won’t stay with me. Is this reasonable?
    • Sometimes, a contractor (even one you already know and know won’t stay with you) is the answer. Mr. Right vs. Mr. Right Now.
  • How do you test the “seriousness” of a job candidate?
    • Are you dealing with a real job candidate or just a person out fishing and wasting your time? Or is this 007 work from a competitor checking you out?
  • Should I be overlapping an exiting employee with their replacement? 
    • Trying to squeeze out a bad employee while simultaneously onboarding a good employee – can this be done? And will keeping a less-than-perfect employee onboard, while offboarding and bringing in a new person, help?
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Marketing Is Metrics: The Cost of New Business Acquisition https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/02/marketing-is-metrics-the-cost-of-new-business-acquisition/ Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:00:57 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33672 Today’s guests, Erik and Elliot, will be joining Christopher on our upcoming Community Table live Q&A on February 16, 2023 to discuss all things marketing. Sign up here (it’s free) to join us so you can get your questions answered!


Acquisition, from cold lead to paying client, is the important stuff. Marketing is one of three pillars of a successful firm: finding and signing new clients. Guests Erik and Elliot Alicea, co-founders of Empirical360 legal marketing, have a passionate focus on law firm marketing built on ROI, return on investment. Get real bang for your marketing buck.

Automation may not be your best bet when it comes to generating cold leads. The process differs from referrals, you need to be personal. People only look for a new lawyer when they are in trouble, so be compassionate, be human. Reach out. And by all means, answer the phone.

Learn to measure the return on your marketing dollar. There should be accountability and measurable results. Know what it’s costing you to land every new client. How do you know if you got your money’s worth? And when you get a lead, hey, that’s not the end. Get the contract signed, that’s work.

(Plus, if you had only ONE channel for marketing your firm, which would it be? Can you guess the answer?)

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Standing Still Is Not OK: Today’s Legal Tech https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/01/standing-still-is-not-ok-todays-legal-tech/ Tue, 24 Jan 2023 12:00:03 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33564 Let’s look at your law firm’s culture when it comes to tech. It’s bottom up and top down, a full circle. You can’t delegate this stuff to one department or one level. Don’t be afraid of change. Embrace efficiencies. Be better. It’s not easy, but you can do this.

Guests Anthony Seale and Isabel Parker understand today’s tech better than most, and they never stop innovating. They’ve seen law firms that embrace technology and process management to improve not only the bottom line but also client satisfaction. Get better results and happier clients with tech. Listen to younger associates, ask what you don’t know. You are never too successful to get on this train. But where to start?

In this episode:

  • Resistance to today’s tech advancements is futile (and it’s costing you money).
  • Listen to younger associates and tech experts.
  • Make more money, make clients happier, and be better by incorporating the best of today’s newest technologies and efficiencies.
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Community Table: Focus Your Practice. Plus, Successfully “Offboarding” Fired Employees https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2023/01/community-table-focus-your-practice-plus-successfully-offboarding-fired-employees/ Tue, 10 Jan 2023 12:00:16 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33471 This episode’s discussion around the Community Table:

  • How to focus your practice. If you’re not known for something, you aren’t known for anything.
  • The one thing all clients in every business want: A better life. How do your services make my life better?
  • The steps you must take after firing an employee. It’s not just about the employee, it’s also about the clients.
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Business Systems: Stop Trying To Do Everything Yourself. https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/12/business-systems-stop-trying-to-do-everything-yourself/ Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:00:29 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33400 In this episode:

  • Law is intense, and you love your business. But are you trying to do everything?
  • Trust the team you’ve hired. You can do too much, and you’re not that special.
  • Make the best use of your time, don’t micromanage. It’s not sustainable and it’s not profitable.
  • Learn about “calendar blocking,” building space for success. The habit you must learn.

Guest Corine Rogers, a Clio systems and efficiency master, has a vital message: You can’t do everything, and you aren’t that important. Help your law firm build business operations systems, then trust your team.

“Systems” are the repeatable ways you delegate tasks to others you trust. You selected your team, but do you let them do what you hired them to do? Do they believe that you believe in you? Get out of the way.

Start with the tasks that you simply don’t like. Baby steps. Don’t fall victim to drowning in the mundane and the things that aren’t the best use of your time.

You can’t create more hours in a day. So free yourself to do more of what you are best at and let others inside your business do the other tasks. In this important episode of The Un-Billable Hour, we hold up a mirror to help you see what you are doing to yourself if you can’t let your team shoulder some of the load. Plus, what doing your laundry can teach you about your business.

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Community Table: Job Offers, Employee Contract Negotiations, and Evaluating New Hires https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/12/community-table-job-offers-employee-contract-negotiations-and-evaluating-new-hires/ Tue, 13 Dec 2022 17:30:53 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33352 This episode’s discussion around the Community Table:

  • How to Determine if a New Hire Is a Success in the First 90 Days
  • How To Master the Process of Employee Contract Negotiations
  • How To Improve Your Job Offer to a Potential Candidate
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The Right Tech: Get Control of Your Practice Management Software https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/11/the-right-tech-get-control-of-your-practice-management-software/ Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:00:08 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33235 Let’s talk about practice management, tech, and production. How do you find and apply the right tech tools that help you deliver what you’ve promised to your clients?

Acquiring new clients, moving cases through the process, reaching successful outputs, and applying the right business metrics that help you understand your business performance all require the right technologies. Did you know, even the simple habit of waiting until the end of the day to enter your billable time can cost you money? There’s a tech solution for virtually every aspect of your legal business.

Tech is racing forward. The COVID-19 pandemic changed the way we work. Maybe you are being left behind. It’s more important than ever to understand what changed. Payments, marketing data, key points, cloud tech, it’s all a new game. Practice management and success today is about data, how you understand your value, your pricing, key performance indicators, and, ultimately, your profitability. From intake to case management to corporate success, tech is what’s driving the legal profession.

Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it – Ferris Bueller

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Community Table: When It’s Time To Fire An Employee… https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/11/community-table-when-its-time-to-fire-an-employee/ Tue, 08 Nov 2022 15:00:09 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33167
  • How To Decide A Timeline For Firing An Employee
  • How To Craft A Good Job Package to Attract Better Quality Applicants
  • How To Give An Employee An Ultimatum Before Firing Them
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    Acquisition Best Practices: Learning To Love Your Leads https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/10/acquisition-best-practices-learning-to-love-your-leads/ Tue, 25 Oct 2022 11:01:06 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33071 Acquisition, getting new clients “from contact to contract,” is vital to your success. So why are so many firms struggling at the most basic levels? Guest Adam Reiman, director of coaching and live events at Lawyer.com, explains.

    Signing a prospective client starts the instant you pick up the phone. Clients are won or lost in those critical first moments. If you’re waiting to respond to calls or putting people on hold, you may be bleeding contracts. Prospect interest drifts away in minutes, while the average law firm takes more than three days to return an initial call. Is that your firm?

    It’s not just getting prospects to call, it’s about converting them to clients. Reiman, says, “Treat your leads like Fabergé Eggs.” They are precious and fragile.

    Reiman, a leader in legal coaching and law firm development, helps firms efficiently manage leads and turn an inquiry into a signed, paying client.

    In this episode:

    • The art of being “nice.” The caller is in a tough spot. Respond quickly and show empathy.
    • The value of in person appointments and appointment reminders.
    • Explaining why you’re the right lawyer. What makes you special.
    • How much follow up contact is too much, and too little.
    • The right time to explain your fee (and how to ask for the money).

    Bonus: Reiman urges firms to give him a call (602-828-4415) for a free “secret shopper” experience where he’ll call as a prospective client, then provide tips and areas for improvement.

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    Community Table: Dissecting the Client Intake Process https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/10/community-table-dissecting-the-client-intake-process/ Tue, 11 Oct 2022 18:00:25 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=32950 This episode’s discussion around the Community Table:

    • How can a law firm effectively use the non-attorney salesperson in a way that meets client expectations?
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    Securing the Unstructured Castle: Protecting Your “Dark Data” https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/09/securing-the-unstructured-castle-protecting-your-dark-data/ Tue, 27 Sep 2022 11:00:13 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=32859 Every attorney knows to lock client secrets behind sophisticated cybersecurity. But as guest Rich Hale explains, the data that’s hiding in plain sight, “Dark Data,” is just as important to your client relationships and your reputation.

    After this important episode, you’ll want to look around your office. What do you see? Passwords taped to keyboards, thumb drives and scribbled notes left on desktops overnight, email exchanges that keep expanding as more people are looped in? Protecting that data both from thieves and ransomware attacks is every bit as crucial as your clients’ secret formula or business plans.

    As chief technology officer for the data security firm ActiveNav, Hale is surprised how many organizations are swimming in unsecured Dark Data. Just because you aren’t hearing about a security breach at a small law firm doesn’t mean it’s not happening daily. Learn to shine a light on your Dark Data. This may be one of the most eye-opening podcasts you listen to this year.

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    Community Table: Bookkeeping, Online Job Boards, and Internal Team Messaging https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/09/community-table-bookkeeping-online-job-boards-and-internal-team-messaging/ Tue, 13 Sep 2022 11:00:03 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=32769 This episode’s discussion around the Community Table:

    • What do I need to consider to bring the firm’s outsource bookkeeping in-house?
    • How can I utilize job boards more effectively to find quality candidates?
    • What is the best way to script internal messaging to my team about a firing?
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    Steering the Course: Controlling Your Life and Career https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/08/steering-the-course-controlling-your-life-and-career/ Tue, 23 Aug 2022 10:59:35 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=32623 Feeling overwhelmed, like you’ve lost control of your life and your practice, like your job runs you instead of the other way around? You’re not alone and there are ways to overcome anxiety, doubt, and feeling overwhelmed. You can put you back in charge of you.

    Guest Monica Levi is a lawyer and former corporate HR executive who channels what she learned into leadership coaching for attorneys. This episode of the Un-Billable Hour is about you. Learn to listen to yourself, understand your worth, and go after what you want in life, whether that’s managing your own law practice, working within a corporate setting, or doing something entirely different.

    Lawyers especially feel the pressures of time management, productivity, and reacting and responding to everyone else’s needs. No wonder so many attorneys are struggling to find satisfaction. It’s hard to set boundaries and gain control of your time and goals. But you can do it.

    And if you’ve got questions and want to be part of the discussion, join us at The Community Table, a live round table Q&A with host Christopher Anderson and guests here!

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    Community Table: Impending resignations, caseloads, and…hiring the neighbor? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/08/community-table-impending-resignations-caseloads-andhiring-the-neighbor/ Tue, 09 Aug 2022 11:00:22 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=32478 This episode’s discussion around the Community Table:

    • How can I minimize the damage of an upcoming employee resignation?
    • How do I decide which size cases my firm should pursue?
    • How do I handle two employees that need to be hired/transferred?
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    Marketing Is Messaging, Express Yourself https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/07/marketing-is-messaging-express-yourself/ Tue, 26 Jul 2022 11:00:06 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=32406 Marketing is about message, not volume. Before big advertising spends, figure out who you are and what you want to say. What makes you special? Look inside your firm and understand your culture and passions. You don’t have to dress, act, and talk like every other firm. And you can’t buy authenticity.

    Guests April and Tyler Roberts are co-founders of NOMOS Marketing. They dig into what makes a law firm unique, building on aspects that forge stronger connections with clients. Lean into what makes you unique.

    Too often, firms focus on the same, bland messaging. They don’t know what they stand for, so they follow the crowd. Instead, build a real brand. When people need an attorney, they are going through a scary period. Learn how making your firm more personal generates trust and helps clients envision the successful outcome only you can deliver.

    (Plus, the one thing any lawyer or law firm can do right now, today, to improve marketing results).

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    Community Table: Structuring bonuses, pro hac vice agreements, and marketing educational courses! https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/07/community-table-structuring-bonuses-pro-hac-vice-agreements-and-marketing-educational-courses/ Tue, 12 Jul 2022 11:01:04 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=32247 This episode’s discussion around the Community Table:

    • How should I structure a bonus plan for my client intake specialist?
    • How should I construct a pro hac vice agreement with an out-of-state law firm?
    • How should I market my newly created educational course to my potential clients?
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    Your Firm? You Can’t Do It All (And You Shouldn’t Try) https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/06/your-firm-you-cant-do-it-all-and-you-shouldnt-try/ Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:01:58 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=32069 If there’s a key lesson in this episode, it’s “Don’t try to do it all.” Guest Mike Morse founded the largest personal injury law firm in Michigan. But it wasn’t always that way. He started out trying to do everything himself, from trials to correspondence to hiring assistants to finding office space. Nobody in law school teaches you how to run a law firm – law school doesn’t even admit a law firm is a business. You need to learn how to run your firm like a business. Morse did just that.

    Learn to delegate. Be a visionary. Be an entrepreneur. Build a brand, scale up, and succeed.

    If you’re already leading a firm, take the next step. Offload tasks to others who share your values and hold them accountable. Build your business by doing what you’re best at and assigning others to do the things you don’t love.

    For anyone running their own firm and wants to grow, this episode may be one of the most important podcasts of the year.

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    Community Table: Hiring decisions, attracting quality candidates, and team meetings! https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/06/community-table-hiring-decisions-attracting-quality-candidates-and-team-meetings/ Tue, 14 Jun 2022 10:59:42 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31843 This episode’s discussion around the Community Table:

    • How do I decide which candidate to hire for the office manager position?
    • How do I attract quality candidates to my small firm when we’re competing against larger law firms?
    • How do I hold people accountable in a way that doesn’t create a lot of extra work for me?
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    Offshore Legal Support: Delegation Is Liberation https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/05/offshore-legal-support-delegation-is-liberation/ Fri, 27 May 2022 11:00:01 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31731 The COVID pandemic changed our understanding of remote work with new technologies and more efficient management. But does that remote employee need to be in your town, or even country?

    Guest Brett Trembly is cofounder of Get Staffed Up, a growing firm that provides talented, English-proficient, remote professional legal support staffers from around the world. Some 700 law firms around the U.S. profit from offshore legal support.

    Look beyond the limited – and highly competitive – talent pool in your region. Limit costs by working with staffers in countries with less expensive economies.

    Never considered offshoring? Now’s the time, as technologies and attitudes about remote work open new ways to expand your business, tackle new projects, and delegate support services so you can focus on results that matter.

     

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    Community Table: Promoting Employees, Hiring Mistakes, and Relinquishing Duties! https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/05/community-table-promoting-employees-hiring-mistakes-and-relinquishing-duties/ Tue, 10 May 2022 11:01:27 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31590 This episode’s discussion around the Community Table:

    • How do I promote an employee to a part-time position without upsetting the current full-time coworker?
    • Did I make a mistake hiring a friend?
    • How do I overcome my reluctance to hand over the drag-in duties to a new hire?

     

    Special thanks to our sponsors LawClerk, Alert Communications, LawYaw, and Scorpion.

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    Hiring Done Right: “Look Beyond the Resume” https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/04/hiring-done-right-look-beyond-the-resume/ Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:30:22 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31560 Guest Joey Seeber prides himself on bringing out the best in his team in the courtroom, at his legal firm, and as an elected public official. He says finding the right person for the job starts with understanding yourself and your organization’s values.

    Seeber reflects on what went right and what went wrong when assembling teams. At his company, Level Legal, he focuses on culture and fit by identifying core values and living by them: “Give a damn. Get it done right. Show respect.” Everything starts with the interview, asking important questions that align with the organization’s values instead of checking boxes.

    What interview questions are you asking? Do they connect to your values? Before you seek a new team member, do you understand what makes your organization work? Hear how Seeber focuses on indicators of success and learned the difference between a “job description” and a “role description.” As he says, “look beyond the resume.”

     

    Special thanks to our sponsors LawClerk, Alert Communications, LawYaw, and Scorpion.

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    Community Table: Formatting invoices, teaching systems, candidate red flags, and more! https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/04/community-table-formatting-invoices-teaching-systems-candidate-red-flags-and-more/ Tue, 12 Apr 2022 11:00:29 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31438 Host Christopher T. Anderson meets with lawyers from around the country to discuss issues they are currently facing in their practices. 

    Featured on this episode:

    • How do I format my invoices so they convey value?
    • How can I better teach systems to my team?
    • What should I do when a job candidate has a few red flags?
    • What is the most efficient way to have my virtual assistant write out processes and procedures?

     

    Special thanks to our sponsors LawClerk, Alert Communications, LawYaw, and Scorpion.

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    Nice To Meet You: Relationship Tips We All Need Now https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/03/nice-to-meet-you-relationship-tips-we-all-need-now/ Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:00:16 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31302 For guest Jason Levin – author of “Relationships to Infinity” and founder of the firm Ready, Set, Launch – keeping in touch with past connections, friends, and mentors is a lifelong passion and the bedrock of networking and relationship development. Through his work, Levin has developed an intense interest in helping people develop and maintain personal and business relationships. Business, after all,  truly comes down to who you know.

    Levin’s firm Ready Set Launch applies corporate brand management principles to personal and corporate relationships. It’s the stuff they don’t teach in law school but is a pillar of any successful law firm. 

    Hate networking? Learn to overcome. Think you are doing a great job at networking? Maybe you aren’t. Levin helps professionals make new and maintain lifetime connections. Keeping in touch is foundational. “Let’s do lunch” and “keep in touch” have become meaningless phrases, but the art of maintaining relationships has never been more important. Go beyond social media, events, and transactions and start getting real with steps you can take right now. Today is the day.    Special thanks to our sponsors LawClerk, Alert Communications, LawYaw, and Scorpion.

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    PREMIERE: The Un-Billable Hour Community Table https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/03/premiere-the-un-billable-hour-community-table/ Tue, 08 Mar 2022 12:00:00 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31230 Host Christopher T. Anderson meets with lawyers around the country to discuss issues they are currently facing in their practices.

    Featured on this episode:

    • How should I market two different areas of focus for my law firm?
    • How do I find the right call intake employee to hire?
    • What is the best use of marketing dollars when starting a practice in a new state?
    • What are the pros and cons of training a new hire vs. hiring an already-experienced candidate?
    • How do I deal with understaffing as I’m about to go on maternity leave?

    Special thanks to our sponsors LawClerk, Alert Communications, LawYaw, and Scorpion.

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    Getting Seen, Getting Heard, Getting Hired In the Digital Jungle https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/02/getting-seen-getting-heard-getting-hired-in-the-digital-jungle/ Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:00:34 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31062 This special episode of Un-Billable Hour goes to the heart of your firm’s existence: attracting and signing new clients in a digital world. 

    Guest Jason Hennessey of Hennessey Digital built his company through reverse engineering the Google algorithm. He’s a respected leader in law firm marketing and offers valuable tips you can put to work today. 

    Learn core principles successful firms use to climb Google search rankings. Embrace the variables that help them adapt and shape their marketing to reach more potential new clients. 

    Hennessey’s book, “Law Firm SEO” explains how search engine optimization works and empowers firms when they look to hire a marketer. The book is written for the layperson, explaining in plain language the principles of SEO. If you don’t want to do it yourself, at least hold the teams you hire accountable. 

    Confused by SEO vs. Paid Search? It comes down to understanding marketing spend and outcomes. Learn what potential clients are looking for and how to hook them. 

    Plus, insights into website functionality, purposeful content strategies, and brand awareness. Attract more prospects and convert them to clients. 

    Special thanks to our sponsors LawClerk, Alert Communications, LawYaw, and Scorpion.

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    What’s Ahead in 2022 for Lawyers and Law Firms https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2022/01/whats-ahead-in-2022-for-lawyers-and-law-firms/ Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:00:33 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=30907 Our first episode of 2022 is kind of about everything. It’s about trends, helping law firms leverage tech, outsource routine tasks, and grow their business. 

    Guest Chad Burton is a highly-regarded legal practice futurist. Through his work with Modern Law Practice and CuroLegal, he works one-on-one with practitioners to help them understand what they need and how to engage existing solutions to move them forward. Understanding the capabilities of today’s tech isn’t intuitive. It takes work. 

    Burton shares insights into emerging trends in 2022. Hear what he thinks will happen with non-lawyer owned law firms and the introduction of non-lawyer licensed legal practitioners in specific legal sectors. 

    Other trends include alternative business structures (ABS) such as LegalZoom, Elevate Services, and fee-splitting providing legal services to a vast pool of underserved Americans. He also offers thoughts on outsourcing routine work through emerging enterprises such as Lawclerk, UpWork, and GetStaffedUp, not only outsourcing tasks but offshoring them.

     

    Special thanks to our sponsors LawClerk, Alert Communications, LawYaw, and Scorpion.

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    Getting On Brand https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2021/12/getting-on-brand/ Tue, 28 Dec 2021 12:00:07 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=30742 We know the pillars of marketing: acquisition, production, and purpose. But in this episode of the Un-Billable Hour, class-action guru Gerald Maatman gets down to basics and talks about your marketing bedrock: your brand.

    Building your practice starts before you ask for a client’s business. It’s about your brand, what you’re already known – and respected – for. Hear how developing expertise, building knowledge, public speaking, and thought leadership earns you the business before you even make the call. 

    There’s a lot to work on here, from giving every case your all, to learning to see the challenge from your client’s perspective, to creating lasting relationships. It’s not easy, and it’s not fast. But a thriving law practice is not about luck. It’s about hard work that never ends. Learn valuable lessons from a true business leader.

     

    Special thanks to our sponsors LawClerk, Alert Communications, LawYaw, and Scorpion.

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    The New Law Business Model https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2021/11/the-new-law-business-model/ Tue, 23 Nov 2021 13:00:15 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=30598 Struggling to find joy and fulfillment in her work at a prestigious law firm, guest Ali Katz thought striking out on her own was the way to go. But she found herself battling the same demons, too busy producing paperwork to achieve work/life balance and find satisfaction by fully serving her clients. 

    Then it hit her. There’s nothing wrong with the legal profession, what’s wrong is the way lawyers run their practice. Author of the new book, “The New Law Business Model: Building a Lucrative Law Practice That You (And Your Clients) Love,” Katz teaches lawyers how to reinvent their practice, build enduring client relationships, and bring the love back to lawyering. 

    Learn the difference between “money debt” and “time debt.” Explore new ways to engage clients and show them the value you provide. Stop doing things the old way and focus on superior client outcomes.

     

    Special thanks to our sponsors Law Clerk, Alert Communications, LawYaw, and Scorpion.

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    How To Be Bigger Than Your Britches https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2021/10/how-to-be-bigger-than-your-britches/ Mon, 25 Oct 2021 14:00:10 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=30441 With today’s tight, post-pandemic labor pool, trained, quality legal intake professionals are scarce. Law firms are increasingly turning to outsourced intake, receptionist, and onboarding services. 

    Jeff Mosler, CEO of Nexa Receptionist Holdings LLC (you probably already know their Alert Communications brand) explains how law firms leveraging the flexibility of a turnkey, pretrained outsourcing platform can maximize marketing investments, answer calls in just three rings, and carry potential clients from a curious call to a signed retainer. Stop wasting marketing dollars on lost leads.

    Even for established firms, an outsourced platform – with the ability to engage by phone, web chat, email, and text – can help firms engaged in one-time, mass tort cases as needs ramp up then scale back. For big firms or small, a trained, on-call pool of legal intake specialists could be the answer.

    Special thanks to our sponsors Law Clerk, Alert Communications, LawYaw, and Scorpion.

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    Vision to Values to Victory https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2021/09/vision-to-values-to-victory/ Tue, 28 Sep 2021 19:00:06 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=30305 Guest Mark Rockwell helps lawyers and law firms build purpose, passion, and profit. Learn the five biggest – and crazy simple – mistakes lawyers make every day that undermine their business.

    Rockwell helps lawyers understand what they want, who they are, and where they want to go. Without structure and vision, what’s the point? When lawyers find themselves spinning their wheels, busy without achieving goals, Rockwell helps create structure and processes that build order and direction.

    For the first 10 listeners to reach out at (503) 784-7205 or Mark@CoachRockwell.com, Rockwell offers a free one-hour coaching session. He also offers a free e-book, “Five Mistakes Lawyers Make That Kill Their Career,” at www.CoachRockwell.Com.

     

    Special thanks to our sponsors Law Clerk, Alert Communications, LawYaw, and Scorpion.

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    Your Information, Their Decision https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2021/08/your-information-their-decision/ Tue, 31 Aug 2021 14:00:58 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=30153 Initial prospect consultations are lost hours if the prospect doesn’t become a client. Guest Theophan McKenzie is a professional sales consultant who helps attorneys and law firms across the country learn a better way to stop wasting time and stop letting prospects walk out the door. 

    McKenzie’s innovative, nontraditional sales techniques teach attorneys to turn off their “lawyer brain” and build immediate, lasting connections with prospects. Learn how to stop selling yourself and start listening to the prospective client.

    Special thanks to our sponsors Law Clerk, Alert Communications, LawYaw, and Scorpion.

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    Coaching to Success https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2021/07/coaching-to-success/ Tue, 27 Jul 2021 14:00:15 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=29941 From the football field to the boardroom, talent development expert Ben Murphy has learned a few moves critical to building a motivated and productive team.

    Host Christopher Anderson and Murphy discuss how law firms can better hire, train, motivate and retain a team.

    Murphy explains why 56% of executives fail within 18 months of being hired and how to avoid these common pitfalls. He also details how managers can effectively manage a team working remotely and manage across generational divides.

    Ben Murphy is vice president of Titus Talent Strategies.

    Special thanks to our sponsors, Scorpion, Lawclerk, Alert Communications and LawYaw.

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    Herding Cats https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2021/07/herding-cats/ Fri, 02 Jul 2021 14:07:38 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=29823 Close to leaving the profession she worked so hard to join, Giugi Carminati realized what was missing: Legal project management.

    But there was a problem. By their very natures, lawyers are resistant to the methods and processes that make legal project management most effective.

    Carminati and host Christopher Anderson talk about how legal project management is slowly being adopted and embraced in the legal profession. Carminati explains how this change in management can help firms retain women and lawyers of color before they get fed up and flee.

    Giugi Carminati is an experienced litigator and certified Legal Project Manager and eDiscovery Director for NDH, LLC.

    Special thanks to our sponsors, Scorpion, Lawclerk, Alert Communications and LawYaw.

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    Help Is Easier to Get https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2021/05/help-is-easier-to-get/ Tue, 25 May 2021 14:00:46 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=29613 Jaclyn Foster knows what it’s like being a full-time paralegal and working for a temp staffing agency. But she opted to break from the norm and build her dedicated paralegal agency because she learned that a professional contract paralegal service could save law firms money, improve quality, and assure continuity. 

    Host Christopher Anderson interviews Foster about her journey from rural Minnesota and Wisconsin to running a team of contract paralegals to support modern law practices.

    Foster explains how, in her experience, contract paralegals not only save money but bring a level of expertise and consistency that many full-time approaches lack. 

    Anderson and Foster discuss lessons learned from the pandemic, including how quickly a sidelined paralegal could be picked up by a different firm in a competitive market.

    Jaclyn Foster is the founder and principal of Jaclyn Foster Paralegal Services.

    Special thanks to our sponsors, Scorpion, Lawclerk, Alert Communications and LawYaw.

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    Law Firm Growth Is No Accident https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2021/04/law-firm-growth-is-no-accident/ Tue, 27 Apr 2021 14:00:15 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=29403 When Ken Hardison evaluates his own success building profitable law firms and books of business, he knows the credit is shared with the people surrounding him.

    To pull an A-team together, Harison explains he first lets go of his ego and brings in people a lot smarter than him. And he looks for team members who are hungry, humble, and smart.

    Hardison and host Christopher Anderson discuss managing a talented team, developing a culture of continual training and mentoring, and keeping core values top of mind.

    Book recommended in episode:

    The Five Dysfunctions of a Team” by Patrick Lencioni

    Ken Hardison is a business development coach and founder of the Powerful Innovative Legal Marketing and Management Association.

    Special thanks to our sponsors,  ScorpionLawclerkAlert Communications and LawYaw.

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    It’s Not About the Leads, It’s What You Do With Them https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2021/03/its-not-about-the-leads-its-what-you-do-with-them/ Tue, 23 Mar 2021 14:00:21 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=29187 So much of legal marketing over the past decade has emphasized generating client leads. And, for the most part, those focused on lead generation are seeing those leads come in.

    But are those leads turning into appointments and paying clients?

    Kara Prior, the co-founder of James Publishing’s Marketing Amplifier program, says there’s a gap between generating leads and signing a client.

    Prior tells host Christopher Anderson how lawyers take simple steps to close this gap, using client-centered marketing techniques now standard in other industries.

    She shares tips on creating “lead magnets,” video messaging, mystery shopping the front-desk team.

    Kara Prior is president of James Publishing and its Marketing Amplifier program.

    Special thanks to our sponsors,  ScorpionLawclerkAlert Communications and LawYaw.

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    Business Development: Planning and Practicing https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2021/02/business-development-planning-and-practicing/ Tue, 23 Feb 2021 22:52:08 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=29035 Business development expert Steve Fretzin takes a practical approach to helping lawyers find and grow business. He and host Christopher Anderson discuss Fretzin’s three-part plan for those looking to bring in business.

    They also discuss how business development, sales, and marketing interconnect.

    Anderson notes that business development isn’t just the realm of law firm owners. He and Fretzin discuss the lateral hiring market and how building a book of business can and should start early, even as a new lawyer is learning the ropes of practice.

    Fretzin breaks down a business plan into three parts: covering goals, strategies, and tactics that help lawyers understand what they need to do every day.

    Steve Fretzin is an expert in business development for lawyers and is president of Fretzin Inc.

    Special thanks to our sponsors,  ScorpionLawclerkAlert Communications and LawYaw.

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    Being a Business Visionary https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2021/01/being-a-business-visionary/ Tue, 26 Jan 2021 15:00:38 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=28825 Early in his forensics business, David Notowitz did what many small business owners do. He stumbled around, living off referrals and being a jack of all trades handling bookkeeping, answering phones, and whatever else.

    In his third year, Notowitz knew he needed a plan. Rather than a complex business plan, Notowitz created a set of lists, identifying 15 roles, systems, and marketing.

    Notowitz tells host Christopher Anderson what he learned implementing his plans, what it was like learning to delegate, and why it’s important for business leaders to hold on to tasks they enjoy doing even if they have the option to delegate.

    David Notowitz is the founder and lead forensic expert at the National Center for Audio and Video Forensics.

    Special thanks to our sponsors,  ScorpionLawclerkAlert Communications and LawYaw.

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    Data Is Such a Powerful Tool https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2020/12/data-is-such-a-powerful-tool/ Tue, 22 Dec 2020 15:00:48 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=28677 Erik Pickering was just getting the hang of things in data operations and company security at Bridgewater Associates when the Great Recession hit and the bottom fell out from under the economy. He still uses the lessons he learned at Bridgewater, which had set up a sophisticated Depression alarm that anticipated the turmoil.

    Pickering and host Christopher Anderson discuss the strategy lessons he saw developed and implemented by Bridgewater’s billionaire founder Ray Dalio. Pickering shares Dalio’s five-step planning process that he says applies to business and life.

    The lessons are particularly applicable today and boil down to, “Hope for the best. Plan for the worst.”

    One key to planning right now? Shorten the planning horizon. Rather than a five-year plan, Pickering and Anderson say firms may need to think in terms of months or weeks.

    Pickering and Anderson discuss the common mistakes lawyers make during times of crisis. Taking on too much at once is one Pickering sees far too often.

    Closing the episode, Pickering and Anderson talk about investigative and data research as a tool for lawyers, from solos to larger firms. Pickering differentiates the Tracers software and investigation method from simple internet searches that don’t measure up to responsible due diligence.

    Erik Pickering is president of the data-research company Tracers.

    Special thanks to our sponsors,  ScorpionLawclerkAlert Communications and LawYaw.

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    Profit First: Helping Law Firm Owners Serve Their Clients Best https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2020/11/profit-first-helping-law-firm-owners-serve-their-clients-best/ Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:00:52 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=28550 Following the “Profit First” finance strategy created by Mike Michalowitcz, Triangle Smart Divorce founder Jenny Bradley has vastly improved her firm’s business operations. So much so that she’s looking for ways to share the strategy with clients.

    Bradley tells host Christopher Anderson the steps she took to implement the plan, from finding the right bank to ensuring her bookkeeper was on board. 

    If she could turn back the clock to before she launched her firm, Bradley says she would do two things differently: read more business-oriented books and do a better job taming her calendar. 

    In addition to “Profit First,” Anderson and Bradley discuss Michalowitcz’s book, “The Toilet Paper Entrepreneur,” and Michael Gerber’s book and business method, “The EMyth.”

    Jenny Bradley is a family law attorney and owner of Triangle Smart Divorce in Cary, North Carolina.

    Special thanks to our sponsors,  ScorpionLawclerkAlert Communications and LawYaw.

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    Pivoting to Help People https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2020/10/pivoting-to-help-people/ Tue, 27 Oct 2020 21:26:31 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=28426 While there’s expected growth in practice areas related to the pandemic, De Novo Review CEO and Founder Genny Castellanos says surges are nothing new. Rather than staff up with a permanent team, she and De Novo Review’s CSO Garrick Pursley tell host Christopher Anderson that more firms are using contract attorneys as needed.

    Pursley says the shift from permanent splurge hiring to temporary surge hiring is accelerating for some because of the pandemic. While some lawyers are boning up on growth areas to meet demand, others are bringing in subject-matter experts to help them manage growth areas.

    This ability to be flexible is especially critical as firms adapt to new revenue streams, new ways of acquiring clients and positioning in a fast-changing society.

    Genny Castellanos is the founder and CEO of De Novo Review, and Garrick Pursley is De Novo Review’s CFO and COO.

    Special thanks to our sponsors,  ScorpionLawclerk, Alert Communications and LawYaw.

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    What Clients Want: Bringing AI to Your Business https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2020/09/what-clients-want-bringing-ai-to-your-business/ Tue, 22 Sep 2020 15:00:29 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=28215 Many lawyers were so busy making fun of the robot lawyer, laughing at the thought of bot making a Perry Mason-like court appearance, that they missed a significant development. Online dispute resolution bypassed the court process and showed that lawyers aren’t always needed to help resolve disputes.

    The joke was on us, Tom Martin tells host Christopher Anderson during a discussion about how the pandemic accelerated lawyers’ use and adoption of automation, and how consumer expectations are fast being applied to legal services and lawyer/client relationships.

    The two also discuss how tech adoption may open up the legal marketplace and the impetus behind Martin’s co-founding of the American Legal Technology Awards.

    Tom Martin is the founder and CEO of LawDroid.

    Note: Since the recording of this episode, the American Legal Technology Awards were announced. Learn about the inaugural honorees at americanlegaltechnology.com.

    Special thanks to our sponsors,  ScorpionLawclerk, and Alert Communications.

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