ABA Journal: Legal Rebels Podcast - Legal Talk Network https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/ Mon, 28 Jul 2025 01:48:05 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2 How agentic artificial intelligence could shake up the legal industry https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2025/07/how-agentic-artificial-intelligence-could-shake-up-the-legal-industry/ Wed, 16 Jul 2025 11:00:07 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=39447 For lawyers, artificial intelligence agents could completely change the way that they do their jobs, handling things such as legal research, document creation and managing workflows with little human supervision. But if we’ve learned anything since the dawn of the generative AI revolution, the potential benefits of agentic AI come with risks and possible consequences, as well.

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How ethics reforms in Arizona led to LegalZoom’s law firm https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2025/06/how-ethics-reforms-in-arizona-led-to-legalzooms-law-firm/ Wed, 11 Jun 2025 11:00:30 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=39327 When Arizona changed its ethics rules in 2020 opening the door for alternative business structures and nonlawyer ownership for law firms, it sent shock waves throughout the legal industry. Nicole Miller, the chief legal officer of LegalZoom, speaks to the ABA Journal’s Victor Li about LegalZoom’s experience in Arizona thus far, as well as general issues relating to regulatory reform and alternative business structures.

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To buy or not to buy? For Cleary Gottlieb, acquiring an AI company was a no-brainer https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2025/05/to-buy-or-not-to-buy-for-cleary-gottlieb-acquiring-an-ai-company-was-a-no-brainer/ Wed, 14 May 2025 11:00:26 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=39115 Law firms acquire or merge with one another all the time. But when it comes to technology companies, firms usually keep it in-house or enter into a partnership with an outside vendor. They rarely go ahead and just buy a tech company. So when Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton announced in March that it had acquired artificial intelligence products developers Springbok AI, it made headlines. ]]> Generative AI can help overworked immigration lawyers navigate these tumultuous times https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2025/04/generative-ai-can-help-overworked-immigration-lawyers-navigate-these-tumultuous-times/ Wed, 16 Apr 2025 11:00:51 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38935 “May you live in interesting times.” For immigration lawyers, that old proverb is now a reality. Ever since the start of the second Trump administration, immigration lawyers have been busier than ever, and they have plenty on their plates.

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This year’s historic ABA Techshow will be bigger than ever https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2025/03/this-years-historic-aba-techshow-will-be-bigger-than-ever/ Wed, 12 Mar 2025 11:00:53 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38759 For one thing, it marks the 40th annual iteration of the show. For another, it promises to be the biggest of all time—emanating for the first time from the McCormick Place Convention Center in Chicago. Techshow co-chair Stephen Embry talks to the ABA Journal’s Victor Li about what to expect from this year’s show.

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Should we expect new regulations on data privacy and consumer protection? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2025/02/should-we-expect-new-regulations-on-data-privacy-and-consumer-protection/ Wed, 12 Feb 2025 12:00:22 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38587 It’s a well-worn saying that the law always lags behind technology. It makes sense. We all remember the old song about how a bill becomes a law and how long the whole process can take. By the time you get to the verse about a president signing something into law, technology has either evolved into something even more cutting edge or become obsolete—replaced by a newer, shinier toy.

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What’s the forecast for generative AI in 2025? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2025/01/whats-the-forecast-for-generative-ai-in-2025/ Wed, 15 Jan 2025 12:00:00 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38406 If last year was when generative artificial intelligence went mainstream, could this year be the one when it gets even bigger? Will we see more people, law firms, companies and government agencies adopt, use or integrate it into their day-to-day activities? Will we see more rules and regulations from states or the federal government regarding its use? What about law schools and generative AI? Will we see more start to teach it? And will lawyers finally learn more about what to do, or not to do, when it comes to using it?

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2024 in Review: Generative AI dominated legal tech https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2024/12/2024-in-review-generative-ai-dominated-legal-tech/ Wed, 11 Dec 2024 12:00:14 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38211 More money is flowing into legal tech than ever before, as several gigantic deals dominated the headlines and enlarged quite a few bank accounts. And the push for regulatory reform extended to attorney admissions—between a demand for an online bar exam and an exploration of alternative pathways to licensure, one of the longtime pillars of the legal profession could be ready to make way. That’s just a few of the topics that will be covered in this special year-in-review episode of the Legal Rebels Podcast.

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What generative AI means for the future of predictive analytics https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2024/11/what-generative-ai-means-for-the-future-of-predictive-analytics/ Wed, 13 Nov 2024 17:00:10 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=38058 Lawyers, especially litigators, like to say they never ask a question that they don’t already know the answer to. But there’s plenty of unknowns out there—especially when it comes to how a case might turn out or how much it will cost. Predictive judicial and law firm analytics take some of that guesswork out of the equation.

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What Filevine’s new AI tool could mean for the future of depositions https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2024/10/what-filevines-new-ai-tool-could-mean-for-the-future-of-depositions/ Wed, 16 Oct 2024 11:00:24 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=37823 The generative artificial intelligence tool is not just designed to transcribe depositions. It looks for inconsistencies. It suggests questions to ask. It analyzes the transcript in real time to see whether there are issues that have to be cleared up or areas of weakness to address. In other words, it’s like having another attorney in the room—only one who’s capable of digesting large amounts of data and analyzing it quickly. ]]> What does the future hold for licensed paraprofessionals? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2024/09/what-does-the-future-hold-for-licensed-paraprofessionals/ Wed, 18 Sep 2024 11:00:09 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=37595 Much has been made of the gigantic access-to-justice gap in this country. One possible way to help bridge the gap is to expand the pool of people eligible to practice law. Of course, that raises age-old concerns about unauthorized practice of law.

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Tests into and out of law schools—what’s changing and why https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2024/08/tests-into-and-out-of-law-schools-whats-changing-and-why/ Wed, 14 Aug 2024 11:00:42 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=37255 The LSAT is facing competition from the JD-Next exam, and many states are reconsidering their licensing methods as the bar exam as we’ve known it sunsets in 2028. Kellye Testy, the executive director and CEO of the Association of American Law Schools, talks with the ABA Journal’s Julianne Hill about why those changes are happening now and what it means for law schools and students.

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How generative AI can help you market your legal practice https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2024/07/how-generative-ai-can-help-you-market-your-legal-practice/ Wed, 17 Jul 2024 15:00:31 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=37043 There has been a lot of talk and concern about generative AI tools and how they are changing the legal industry.

A major worry for many lawyers is that these tools could replace them or make them redundant.

But what about the potential of generative AI to help lawyers generate business, market themselves more effectively, and make more money?

On this month’s episode of the Legal Rebels Podcast, Gyi Tsakalakis, founder of AttorneySync and EPL Digital and digital marketing expert, talks about how generative AI can help lawyers generate business and market themselves.

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Can generative AI tools make it easier for lawyers to offer pro bono services? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2024/06/can-generative-ai-tools-make-it-easier-for-lawyers-to-offer-pro-bono-services/ Wed, 12 Jun 2024 11:00:41 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36699 A commonly cited solution to helping bridge the access-to-justice canyon is for lawyers to provide more pro bono work. In that regard, have generative artificial intelligence tools made it easier for lawyers to provide pro bono services?

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Will generative AI (finally) spell the end of the billable hour? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2024/05/will-generative-ai-finally-spell-the-end-of-the-billable-hour/ Wed, 22 May 2024 11:00:02 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36578 It seems like every time that there’s a major disruption or event that threatens to upend the legal industry, it spells doom for the billable hour. But that could be more out of hope than anything else. The billable hour survived the Great Recession and the COVID-19 pandemic, despite many people thinking—or maybe wishing—that it wouldn’t.

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The future of DEI programs in the legal industry https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2024/04/the-future-of-dei-programs-in-the-legal-industry/ Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:00:11 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36427 The lack of diversity when it comes to race, gender, sexuality, disability and social class within the legal profession is nothing new. However, the last decade has marked a gradual increase in diversity across all fields.

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Could automated transcription tools replace human court reporters? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2024/03/could-automated-transcription-tools-replace-human-court-reporters/ Wed, 13 Mar 2024 11:00:12 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36209 Transcription technology has existed for a while now, but its accuracy has never been that high. Now, artificial intelligence could make automated transcription even more accurate. As the tech becomes better and better, is it possible that it could eventually replace human court reporters?

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Fall in love with legal technology at this year’s ABA Techshow https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2024/02/fall-in-love-with-legal-technology-at-this-years-aba-techshow/ Wed, 07 Feb 2024 12:00:58 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=36029 What better way to spend Valentine’s Day than with your favorite lawyers, legal professionals, technologists and thought leaders who will be on hand to teach lucky conference goers about all the latest trends and developments in the field of legal technology?

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Want to clear a criminal record? This lawyer has an app for that https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2024/01/want-to-clear-a-criminal-record-this-lawyer-has-an-app-for-that/ Wed, 17 Jan 2024 12:00:51 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35923 The impact for people clearing their criminal records can be life-changing, leading to long-term employment and financial security. And research shows that it also helps prevent recidivism. But the path to expungement is not always easy, requiring people with criminal records to navigate an unfamiliar, costly and drawn-out process. That’s where lawyer Noella Sudbury comes in.

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What were the top legal tech stories of 2023? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2023/12/what-were-the-top-legal-tech-stories-of-2023/ Wed, 13 Dec 2023 12:00:11 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35770 As 2023 draws to a close, the Legal Rebels Podcast looks at the top stories in legal technology for the year. Between the explosion in popularity of ChatGPT and other generative artificial intelligence tools, the continued use of virtual or hybrid working arrangements and the underwhelming mergers and acquisitions market, it was certainly an eventful year.

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How this lawyer uses TikTok to skewer law firm culture https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2023/11/how-this-lawyer-uses-tiktok-to-skewer-law-firm-culture/ Wed, 15 Nov 2023 12:00:51 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35575 Legal professionals are not immune to the pull of platforms such as TikTok, Instagram and YouTube Shorts. Some are even using short-form videos to inform clients about their law practice; build their business or brand; or shed light on the culture of BigLaw, crafting short-form video content giving an insider look at the profession.

Among them is Alex Su, a former lawyer and head of community development at Ironclad, a contract management software company.

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How generative AI is already changing contract review https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2023/10/how-generative-ai-is-already-changing-contract-review/ Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:00:55 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35424 One of the areas that has already felt the effects of ChatGPT and other large language models is contracts. Users can now use these AI-enhanced tools to help them quickly draft, analyze and review contracts. All you have to do is type in what you want, and the tech does the rest. Of course, it isn’t that simple. The technology is still in its infancy, and there are limits to what it can do.

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What is the future of remote working in the law firm world? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2023/09/what-is-the-future-of-remote-working-in-the-law-firm-world/ Wed, 13 Sep 2023 11:00:39 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35192 Thanks to the COVID-19 pandemic, working from home and communicating and collaborating via real-time communication tools has become the norm for many law firms and offices. The benefits of such arrangements are obvious. However, some firms, including several of the largest in the country, have begged to differ. Citing a need to maintain or preserve office culture and strengthen personal connections, these firms are now mandating at least four days in the office per week.

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Changing the culture at law firms to promote wellness and mental well-being https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2023/08/changing-the-culture-at-law-firms-to-promote-wellness-and-mental-well-being/ Wed, 16 Aug 2023 15:20:33 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=35037 For decades, lawyers who worked in BigLaw could expect some version of the following: Work long hours, including nights and weekends, with minimal free time, giving up almost all semblances of a social life. The reward: money and a potential partnership. And if you didn’t like it, there was the door. And if you were having mental health or wellness issues, then suck it up and deal with it.

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How GPT and other large language models could change e-discovery https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2023/07/how-gpt-and-other-large-language-models-could-change-e-discovery/ Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:00:42 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34846 When technologically assisted review first started gaining traction in e-discovery in the 2010s, many of the same superlatives assigned to ChatGPT were used to describe this groundbreaking new process that purported to review documents faster and more accurately than humans. Lawyers would get hours and hours of time back, and clients would save tons of money.

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What could AI regulation in the US look like? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2023/06/what-could-ai-regulation-in-the-us-look-like/ Wed, 14 Jun 2023 11:00:31 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34577 ChatGPT, the large language model released by OpenAI, is one of several such tools that have revolutionized the legal industry in a short amount of time, igniting debates about whether artificial intelligence has to be regulated—and by whom. The European Union recently took the first step toward passing the AI Act, whereby regulation would increase in proportion with the potential threat to privacy and safety that an AI system poses. China has also drafted rules to regulate AI.

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Pre/Dicta takes a radically different approach to predictive analytics than others https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2023/05/pre-dicta-takes-a-radically-different-approach-to-predictive-analytics-than-others/ Wed, 17 May 2023 11:00:48 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34349 There are plenty of judicial analytics and litigation prediction tools on the market. They may have differences in execution and focus, but the general rule of thumb is that they look at a judge’s past rulings and opinions to predict how that judge might rule on a similar motion or case in the future. For instance, you can look up how a particular judge on prior motions to dismiss on certain employment discrimination cases to get an idea how they might rule on a similar one currently pending in their courtroom. That knowledge can be important for lawyers.

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What the Silicon Valley Bank failure means for our financial institutions https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2023/04/what-the-silicon-valley-bank-failure-means-for-our-financial-institutions/ Wed, 12 Apr 2023 11:00:15 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=34108 Many of us still get a chill running down our spines when we hear about bank failures and bailouts. After all, it was less than 15 years ago when we went through one of the worst economic disasters in history, and institutions such as Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers Inc., American International Group Inc. and others became famous for the wrong reasons. The Great Recession took years to recover from, and some of its effects can still be felt to this day.

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How Casetext utilized the latest GPT technology to create an AI legal assistant https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2023/03/how-casetext-utilized-the-latest-gpt-technology-to-create-an-ai-legal-assistant/ Wed, 22 Mar 2023 11:00:09 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33883 In November, when OpenAI unleashed the newest, most advanced version of its chatbot, ChatGPT, it immediately captured the imagination. So far, it’s been a hit. Casetext launched CoCounsel earlier this month, and it functions as a legal assistant, helping users draft all sorts of legal documents. Users can utilize CoCounsel to help draft briefs, compose research memos, draw up contracts and analyze them, and write correspondence—all by typing their questions or requests into a prompt.

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What to expect from ABA Techshow 2023 https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2023/02/what-to-expect-from-aba-techshow-2023/ Wed, 15 Feb 2023 12:00:08 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33676 One of the biggest and longest-running legal technology shows in the country, the ABA Techshow, is right around the corner. From March 1 to 4, thousands of lawyers, legal professionals and vendors will descend upon Chicago to talk about technology.

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Should lawyers embrace or fear ChatGPT? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2023/01/should-lawyers-embrace-or-fear-chatgpt/ Wed, 18 Jan 2023 12:00:04 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33483 For some academics, researching, writing, editing and publishing a scholarly piece of work can take months, if not years, of painstaking effort, diligent commitment and rage-inducing frustration. In December, Andrew Perlman, the dean of the Suffolk University Law School, authored one in less time than it takes to watch an episode of the Game of Thrones prequel series House of the Dragon.

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Why this BigLaw firm recently started a legal ops division https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2022/12/why-this-biglaw-firm-recently-started-a-legal-ops-division/ Wed, 14 Dec 2022 12:00:03 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33336 Legal operations handle a lot of the business and technological stuff that many lawyers either aren’t trained to handle or don’t want to deal with. All so lawyers can focus on practicing law and representing their clients to the best of their abilities.

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It’s a long road ahead for driverless cars, says Fastcase executive https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2022/11/its-a-long-road-ahead-for-driverless-cars-says-fastcase-executive/ Wed, 09 Nov 2022 12:00:05 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=33161 There hasn’t been much progress when it comes to driverless cars. Most major car manufacturers have sunk hundreds of billions into developing and testing driverless cars; yet the finish line seems to be nowhere in sight. So what happened?

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How lawyers can unlock the potential of the metaverse https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2022/10/how-lawyers-can-unlock-the-potential-of-the-metaverse/ Wed, 19 Oct 2022 11:00:05 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=32931 The metaverse is all the rage these days. Users can enter a virtual world where they can interact with people from all parts of the physical world, play games, engage in commerce and do a lot of other things. Some law firms have also seen the potential.

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Legal Chatbots: What can and can’t they do? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2022/09/legal-chatbots-what-can-and-cant-they-do/ Wed, 14 Sep 2022 11:00:04 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=32790 Programmed to communicate as if they were living, breathing people, AI chatbots function by asking you a series of questions and providing you with your available options. Lawyers, law firms and courts have even gotten into the act.

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Why this BigLaw Firm Adopted a Permanent Work-from-Anywhere Policy for its Lawyers and Staff https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2022/08/why-this-biglaw-firm-adopted-a-permanent-work-from-anywhere-policy-for-its-lawyers-and-staff/ Wed, 17 Aug 2022 11:00:51 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=32595 Thanks to nearly two-years of COVID-19-related shutdowns and sheltering-in-place orders, working from home has become the new normal. Face-to-face interactions have been replaced by meeting on real-time videoconferencing platforms such as Zoom, FaceTime or Microsoft Teams, while cloud-based collaborative programs have become absolutely vital if any work is to be done.

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How technology can improve immigration policy and practice https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2022/07/how-technology-can-improve-immigration-policy-and-practice/ Wed, 20 Jul 2022 11:00:32 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=32322 Immigration is an area of law that lends itself well to technological innovations. It is in that intersection in which immigration lawyer Greg Siskind does his work.

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Taking on unauthorized practice of law regulations to expand access to justice https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2022/06/taking-on-unauthorized-practice-of-law-regulations-to-expand-access-to-justice/ Wed, 15 Jun 2022 11:00:46 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31925 Are you struggling with debt? Do you have collectors breathing down your neck, threatening to repossess your property and filing lawsuits against you in court? For many Americans facing this dilemma, their options are fairly limited.

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EmotionTrac analyzes facial expressions in real time to help lawyers pick juries, market themselves https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2022/05/emotiontrac-analyzes-facial-expressions-in-real-time-to-help-lawyers-pick-juries-market-themselves/ Wed, 18 May 2022 11:00:12 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31663 Facial recognition software is becoming a greater part of our everyday lives. But the technology is controversial and not without its critics. Questions about its accuracy—especially relating to recognizing minority faces—remain.

Special thanks to our sponsors, Alert Communications and Smokeball.

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TurnSignl app seeks to provide real-time legal assistance and de-escalation of tension during traffic stops https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2022/04/turnsignl-app-seeks-to-provide-real-time-legal-assistance-and-de-escalation-of-tension-during-traffic-stops/ Wed, 13 Apr 2022 10:59:51 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31437 Like many Americans, Jazz Hampton and two of his friends, Andre Creighton and Mychal Frelix, watched in horror as two fellow Minnesotans, Philando Castile and George Floyd, were killed by police officers following what seemed to be routine traffic stops. If only there had been a way to de-escalate those situations while protecting the rights of the person detained, as well as the law enforcement officer involved. So they came up with one.

Special thanks to our sponsors, Alert Communications and Smokeball.

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With alternative dispute rising in popularity, this platform aims to help mediators and arbitrators https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2022/03/with-alternative-dispute-rising-in-popularity-this-platform-aims-to-help-mediators-and-arbitrators/ Wed, 23 Mar 2022 11:00:52 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31267 As a young personal injury litigator in Georgia, Gino Brogdon Jr. says he was accustomed to using different technology tools to manage his practice. But when Brogdon began working as a mediator, he realized that there were limited tech options to assist him in the alternative dispute resolution realm.

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How a social justice innovation lab is developing new types of legal services https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2022/02/how-a-social-justice-innovation-lab-is-developing-new-types-of-legal-services/ Wed, 16 Feb 2022 12:00:00 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=31016 The Innovation for Justice lab launched at the University of Arizona’s James E. Rogers College of Law in 2018 with the goal of designing, building and testing new solutions to addressing the justice gap impacting millions of Americans.

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How this contracts platform uses AI to help users manage and analyze key documents https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2022/01/how-this-contracts-platform-uses-ai-to-help-users-manage-and-analyze-key-documents/ Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:00:10 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=30877 Evisort co-founder Jake Sussman says when the company began developing its contract management and analysis platform, its goal was to use artificial intelligence as a last resort. But it soon became clear that AI was the only way to solve the contract challenges that Evisort wanted to help users tackle.

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How an e-discovery platform has evolved to meet the new challenges facing clients https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2021/12/how-an-e-discovery-platform-has-evolved-to-meet-the-new-challenges-facing-clients/ Wed, 15 Dec 2021 12:00:59 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=30699 AJ Shankar, the founder and CEO of e-discovery platform Everlaw, likes to say his company’s technology is designed to help clients find needles in a haystack. But he notes that the haystacks that law firms and corporate in-house teams have to confront have grown in size and complexity in recent years. This has prompted cloud-based Everlaw to enhance and broaden its e-discovery offerings.

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How a law prof is training paraprofessionals to represent immigrants in legal proceedings https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2021/11/how-a-law-prof-is-training-paraprofessionals-to-represent-immigrants-in-legal-proceedings/ Wed, 17 Nov 2021 12:00:59 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=30576 Law prof Michele Pistone says there aren’t enough immigration lawyers and pro bono attorneys to meet the demand of immigrants seeking legal assistance. This justice gap is a primary reason that she created a program to train paraprofessionals to handle legal work in the immigration realm.

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Why this BigLaw firm is embracing an ‘augmented automation solution’ for clients https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2021/10/why-this-biglaw-firm-is-embracing-an-augmented-automation-solution-for-clients/ Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:00:25 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=30380 Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati announced last month that it had teamed up with Workiva Inc. to create an application that automates the S-1 form that companies must file with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission when going public.

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Why an online legal marketplace has added tech companies and other alternative providers https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2021/09/why-an-online-legal-marketplace-has-added-tech-companies-and-other-alternative-providers/ Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:00:51 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=30208 Priori is an online platform known for using data and technology to connect in-house legal teams with lawyers and law firms who can assist with a wide variety of projects. But Basha Rubin, CEO and co-founder at Priori, says the company noticed that clients were sometimes turning to its online marketplace for help with problems that “might be best solved by a ‘new law’ company or a nontraditional legal provider.”

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This online platform aims to help pro se litigants with complex civil cases https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2021/08/this-online-platform-aims-to-help-pro-se-litigants-with-complex-civil-cases/ Wed, 18 Aug 2021 11:00:32 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=30067 Sonja Ebron and her wife, Debra Slone, saw firsthand how difficult it can be to represent yourself in civil cases through experiences they had being sued and suing others. Ebron says the couple’s legal battles spanning several different practice areas ultimately prompted them to develop a platform called Courtroom5, an online toolbox that helps self-represented litigants handle their cases from start to finish.


Unlike many other technological tools for pro se litigants, Ebron says Courtroom5 is particularly well-suited to help people with complex civil matters and can be utilized by consumers nationwide. “Our goal is to simplify the process as much as possible for people who first of all really don’t want to be in court and secondly don’t have the legal background,” she says. The company, which is based in Durham, North Carolina, is also working to add a feature to help users connect with lawyers for a-la-carte services.


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How one bankruptcy software company had a banner year despite filings hitting a low https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2021/07/how-one-bankruptcy-software-company-has-expanded-its-reach-since-being-acquired/ Wed, 21 Jul 2021 10:59:38 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=29902 When COVID-19 began hitting the United States hard in spring 2020, Janine Sickmeyer was among those in the bankruptcy world who thought that there would be a tsunami of cases. But contrary to the prognostications of many, the influx of bankruptcy matters never materialized.

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A new evidence management tool aims to help public defenders process video and audio https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2021/06/a-new-evidence-management-tool-aims-to-help-public-defenders-process-video-and-audio/ Wed, 16 Jun 2021 11:00:44 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=29729 Devshi Mehrotra and her classmate Leslie Jones-Dove, who was also passionate about criminal justice reform, contacted local public defenders in the Chicago area to see how the two technologists could potentially be of help. They responded by developing a technology platform known as JusticeText, an AI-powered evidence management tool primarily geared toward public defenders.

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New AI-powered legal writing tool aims to help lawyers craft winning briefs https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2021/05/new-ai-powered-legal-writing-tool-aims-to-help-lawyers-craft-winning-briefs/ Wed, 19 May 2021 11:00:33 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=29558 A gratifying legal victory sparked Jacqueline Schafer’s desire to create a legal technology product that would help other lawyers efficiently craft case-winning briefs full of compelling evidence. Clearbrief is an AI-powered legal writing tool that launched in March.

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How one firm is trying to convince technology clients to embrace subscription pricing https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2021/04/how-one-firm-is-trying-to-convince-technology-clients-to-embrace-subscription-pricing/ Wed, 14 Apr 2021 11:00:25 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=29324 Joyce Tong Oelrich and Zohra Tejani, the founders of Tong Tejani, which specializes in government contracts and has mainly technology-sector clients, kept initial client feedback about subscription pricing in mind when they formally launched their firm in May 2020.

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Experienced cloud-based law firm thrives during COVID-19, firm co-founder says https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2021/03/experienced-cloud-based-law-firm-thrives-during-covid-19-firm-co-founder-says/ Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:00:40 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=29149 When the spread of the novel coronavirus last spring prompted traditional law firms across the country to shutter their physical offices amid much economic uncertainty, the management team at cloud-based law firm FisherBroyles had very different concerns on its radar. The team wanted to make sure that the firm was ready to quickly ramp up hiring. Kevin E. Broyles, the firm’s co-founder and managing partner, says expanding was top of mind.

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Virtual onboarding has provided some unexpected benefits, firm shareholder says https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2021/02/virtual-onboarding-has-provided-some-unexpected-benefits-firm-shareholder-says/ Wed, 10 Feb 2021 17:52:44 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=28957 Virtual trivia nights and happy hours are among the activities that Wolf, Greenfield & Sacks has hosted in recent months to help welcome new hires into the fold amid a remote working environment. John Van Amsterdam, a shareholder at the Boston-based intellectual property law firm, says the events hosted via video conferencing platforms because of COVID-19 have provided a surprisingly effective avenue for building personal connections.

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Law firms should not rush lateral hiring, due diligence expert says https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2021/01/law-firms-should-not-rush-lateral-hiring-due-diligence-expert-says/ Wed, 13 Jan 2021 12:00:13 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=28783 With the shift to virtual recruitment amid the COVID-19 crisis, the speed at which law firms vet and hire lateral partners has increased, according to Michael Ellenhorn, the founder and CEO of Decipher. But Ellenhorn, whose company helps legal industry clients evaluate potential hires, says law firms would be wise not to quicken the hiring process too much.

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Deloitte is monitoring regulatory reforms but is focused on growing new practice https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2020/12/deloitte-is-monitoring-regulatory-reforms-but-is-focused-on-growing-new-practice/ Wed, 16 Dec 2020 12:00:24 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=28670 Don Fancher, a principal in Deloitte’s legal business services practice in the United States, acknowledges that his firm has been monitoring the regulatory reform developments taking place in several states. But he says Deloitte has no current plans to apply to offer direct legal services in this country as it does in other nations. “These are issues happening in the industry that are important to our legal department clients, as well as our law firm clients, so we certainly pay attention,” Fancher says.

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Constant communication has been key amid COVID-19, law school dean says https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2020/11/constant-communication-has-been-key-amid-covid-19-law-school-dean-says/ Wed, 18 Nov 2020 12:00:42 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=28518 Just before students at the University of California at Irvine School of Law were set to return from spring break in March, the university decided that all classes would be moved online because of the spread of COVID-19. L. Song Richardson, the law school’s dean, says the news generated anxiety among students and faculty about how the rest of the spring semester would play out. Richardson emphasized to the law school community that they had experience addressing challenges together, and constant communication would be key to making the best of switch to remote learning.

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Firms of the future: COVID-19 prompts more law firms to pursue real estate downsizing https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2020/10/firms-of-the-future-covid-19-prompts-more-law-firms-to-pursue-real-estate-downsizing/ Wed, 14 Oct 2020 11:00:16 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=28318 In recent years, a growing number of law firms reduced their brick-and-mortar office space as a way to cut costs and also better meet the changing workplace needs of their attorneys. Sherry Cushman says the COVID-19 pandemic has further enhanced the desire of firms to shrink their real estate footprint.

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This Louisiana judge continues to innovate during the COVID-19 crisis https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2020/09/this-louisiana-judge-continues-to-innovate-during-the-covid-19-crisis/ Wed, 16 Sep 2020 11:00:45 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=28179 Judge Scott Schlegel’s history of utilizing technology in his Louisiana courtroom to make life easier for attorneys and members of the public has come in very handy during the COVID-19 pandemic. When the public health crisis forced the closure of Jefferson Parish courtrooms earlier this year, Schlegel contacted those he knows in the legal tech world for assistance in bringing to fruition a plan to remotely accept guilty pleas in criminal cases.

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Bench trial by video? This lawyer says it went better than expected https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2020/08/bench-trial-by-video-this-lawyer-says-it-went-better-than-expected/ Wed, 19 Aug 2020 11:00:44 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=28031 Chicago lawyer Kathy Ehrhart and her firm represented two of the three defendants in a civil case focused on alleged breach of contract concerning a real estate transaction. Though the video proceedings were not without some technical challenges, Ehrhart says the overall experience was better than she expected. “I think as time went on through the trial, we all felt an increasing ability to recapture some of those things that otherwise are lost,” she says.

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Legal reform advocates need to more actively engage the public https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2020/07/legal-reform-advocates-need-to-more-actively-engage-the-public/ Wed, 15 Jul 2020 11:00:40 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=27846 Supporters of broad reforms to how the legal profession is regulated must do a better job drawing the public into ongoing conversations in several states about such issues, says Paula Littlewood, the former longtime executive director of the Washington State Bar Association. “We need to break outside what I call the echo chamber of the profession and really start bringing the consumer and the public to the table to understand what changes could really enhance their ability to access legal services,” Littlewood tells the ABA Journal’s Lyle Moran in this episode of the Legal Rebels Podcast. “If you talk to a family member, you talk to a taxi driver and you explain the concept of a limited license legal technician, I can guarantee you that nine times out of 10 the answer is, ‘Well, that totally makes sense.'”

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BigLaw firm’s legal tech subsidiary has launched a steady stream of COVID-19 tools https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2020/06/biglaw-firms-legal-tech-subsidiary-has-launched-a-steady-stream-of-covid-19-tools/ Wed, 17 Jun 2020 11:00:51 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=27722 When the novel coronavirus began rapidly spreading across the United States earlier this year, Kimball Dean Parker says he felt a strong desire to help consumers and businesses in need. Utah-based SixFifty set out to do what it does best: develop online tools to assist consumers of all types tackle complex legal challenges without breaking the bank.

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How hosting a national pandemic summit aided Nebraska courts with its COVID-19 response https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2020/05/how-hosting-a-national-pandemic-summit-aided-nebraska-courts-with-its-covid-19-response/ Wed, 13 May 2020 11:00:42 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=27557 When the novel coronavirus began sweeping across the U.S. earlier this year, Nebraska’s courts system was better prepared to rapidly adjust its operations than some of its counterparts in other states. Michael G. Heavican, the chief justice of the Nebraska Supreme Court, attributes this to the National Pandemic Summit that he hosted in May 2019 for court leaders across the country. In this new Legal Rebels Podcast episode, Heavican talks to ABA Journal Legal Affairs Writer Lyle Moran.

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Online estate planning sees surge during coronavirus crisis https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2020/04/online-estate-planning-sees-surge-during-coronavirus-crisis/ Wed, 15 Apr 2020 11:00:07 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=27425 The online estate-planning platform Trust & Will saw at least a 100% increase in business in March amid the COVID-19 pandemic, according to Cody Barbo, the company’s CEO and co-founder. “I think that everybody has a family member who is elderly or has been affected by this or works in health care, so it definitely hits close to home,” says Barbo in this new episode of the Legal Rebels Podcast with ABA Journal Legal Affairs Writer Lyle Moran.

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President of the Legal Services Corp. reflects on his tenure https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2020/03/president-of-the-legal-services-corp-reflects-on-his-tenure/ Wed, 18 Mar 2020 11:00:57 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=27265 Asked to reflect on his nine-year tenure as president of the Legal Services Corp., Jim Sandman says he is proud of many things that he and his team accomplished. Under Sandman’s leadership, the LSC produced its seminal work, which found that 86% of civil legal needs reported by low-income Americans in the past year were either inadequately addressed or not met at all.

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How 2 Texas lawyers are marketing their practice through song https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2020/02/how-2-texas-lawyers-are-marketing-their-practice-through-song/ Wed, 12 Feb 2020 12:00:27 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=27033 Thanks to social media and the internet, it’s never been easier—or more affordable—for lawyers to advertise. On the other hand, having so many avenues available to lawyers makes it more difficult for anyone to stand out from the crowd. So when Waco, Texas, lawyers Will Hutson and Chris Harris got more than 500,000 views on YouTube for a clip showing them playing guitars and singing about the legal consequences of swallowing, destroying or concealing marijuana in front of police officers, it was almost like winning the lottery. In this new episode of the Legal Rebels Podcast, Hutson and Harris speak with ABA Journal Assistant Managing Editor Victor Li.

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Reinventing the staid field of legal academic writing https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2020/01/reinventing-the-staid-field-of-legal-academic-writing/ Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:00:32 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=26897 Legal academic publishing isn’t synonymous with innovation. The mere mention of it can, for some, bring up repressed memories of the most banal and stuffy aspects of law school. But the Massachusetts Institute of Technology wants to change that. In spring 2019, MIT announced the MIT Computational Law Report. In this new episode of the Legal Rebels Podcast, technology writer Jason Tashea talks to Bryan Wilson, editor-in-chief of the online publication.

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How one lawyer built a practice by defending a notorious accused hacker https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2019/12/how-one-lawyer-built-a-practice-by-defending-a-notorious-accused-hacker/ Thu, 12 Dec 2019 17:21:10 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=26784 Leaving BigLaw to start his own firm in 2011, Tor Ekeland quickly learned that his legal education was insufficient for the task at hand. To Ekeland, the edited cases law students spend three years reading don’t help graduates prepare for practice, which may include appearing before an overworked judge with limited attention or dealing with a lying client. The divide between law school and practice may be best illustrated by the lack of financial management courses, even though violating the client trust account is the “third-rail” of legal practice, according to Ekeland.

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Diversity in the legal tech community https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2019/11/diversity-in-the-legal-tech-community/ Wed, 13 Nov 2019 12:00:55 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=26647 The year 2017 was hailed as the “Year of Women in Legal Tech” based on a few high-profile acquisitions and hires. Kristen Sonday, the co-founder of Paladin, a pro bono management platform, however, took a look around and noticed that there were few other founders in the legal tech world who looked like her. So, Sonday set out to understand what the reality was: Was she blind to a cohort of female and minority founders, or did legal tech have a diversity problem? She talks to the ABA Journal’s Jason Tashea in this new episode of the Legal Rebels Podcast.

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Criminal justice experts hope tech can more easily help people expunge prior convictions and arrests https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2019/10/criminal-justice-experts-hope-tech-can-more-easily-help-people-expunge-prior-convictions-and-arrests/ Wed, 16 Oct 2019 11:00:18 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=26461 In the United States, an estimated 70 million people have a criminal record. Being tagged with this scarlet letter can affect a person’s ability to find employment, housing and even potential relationships. Meanwhile, the expansion of freedom of information laws and the internet has changed how criminal records are used and who has access to them. These changes raise questions around the purpose of criminal records and the limits of legal remedies like expungement and sealing. To make better sense of these issues, Colleen Chien, a professor at Santa Clara University School of Law, and Sarah Lageson, an assistant professor at Rutgers University School of Criminal Justice, came together and talked to ABA Journal Legal Affairs Writer Jason Tashea about their research into the modern trials and tribulations of expungement, sealing and criminal records.

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Exploring new frontiers in research for the legal industry https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2019/09/exploring-new-frontiers-in-research-for-the-legal-industry/ Wed, 18 Sep 2019 11:00:15 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=26233 In the latest episode of the Legal Rebels Podcast, ABA Journal Legal Affairs Writer Jason Tashea talks to legal tech blogger Bob Ambrogi and Andrew Arruda, CEO of artificial intelligence company Ross Intelligence, about what new technology and artificial intelligence can do for legal research.

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How experiential learning became the norm https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2019/08/how-experiential-learning-became-the-norm/ Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:00:17 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=26029 Ten years ago, Rodney Smolla was featured as a Legal Rebel for leading an innovative plan at Washington and Lee University School of Law to eliminate traditional third-year coursework and replace it with experiential learning. Many law schools opened clinics in the 1970s and 1980s, according to Smolla, but when Washington and Lee revised its 3L coursework in 2009, legal education for the most part had been unchanged for the past century. People had long thought that it was time for change, regardless of whether they were for or against experiential learning, Smolla tells the ABA Journal’s Stephanie Francis Ward.

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What’s your brand? Max Miller has some thoughts https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2019/07/whats-your-brand-max-miller-has-some-thoughts/ Wed, 17 Jul 2019 11:00:59 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=25797 It’s good to be seen as a “thought leader,” but don’t call yourself that in marketing materials, says lawyer, professor and small business owner Max Miller. “It should be evident,” Miller told the ABA Journal’s Stephanie Francis Ward in this episode of the Legal Rebels Podcast. “You shouldn’t have to put it in your LinkedIn profile.”

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Avvo founder Mark Britton unwinds as he thinks about next step https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2019/06/avvo-founder-mark-britton-unwinds-as-he-thinks-about-next-step/ Wed, 12 Jun 2019 11:00:30 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=25506 Mark Britton, who founded and sold the online attorney ratings site Avvo, is taking a break. This helps with creativity but does cause him some discomfort. After his years of making money from attorneys on his site, he has some business development advice for the profession—zero in on groups of people who might hire you and figure out how they want to be spoken to, he tells the ABA Journal’s Stephanie Francis Ward.

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David Van Zandt has made a career out of touching third rails in higher ed https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2019/05/david-van-zandt-has-made-a-career-out-of-touching-third-rails-in-higher-ed/ Wed, 15 May 2019 11:00:14 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=25389 When David Van Zandt became dean of what is now Northwestern University’s Pritzker School of Law in 1995, he faced a steep learning curve, he tells the ABA Journal’s Jason Tashea. But he had a good sense of the demands on recent graduates and lawyers. He also took on faculty hiring and tenure–a third rail in higher education–by hiring those for tenure track positions with not only JDs, but PhDs. Named an ABA Journal Legal Rebel in 2009, Van Zandt is now the president of the New School in New York. Whether grappling with political issues of the day or an oppositional faculty, Van Zandt has continually forged ahead for the changes he believes in.

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Nonprofit law pioneer applauds ‘low bono’ growth https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2019/04/nonprofit-law-pioneer-applauds-low-bono-growth/ Wed, 17 Apr 2019 11:00:32 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=25146
Before they were buzzwords, Luz Herrera was a pioneer in the world of “low bono” practice, nonprofit law firms and legal incubators. In this episode of the ABA Journal’s Legal Rebels Podcast, Herrera speaks with Angela Morris about how a low-bono practice can enable a lawyer to balance the desire to help people with making a living.
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Jeff Carr continues his fight against billable hours https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2019/03/jeff-carr-continues-his-fight-against-billable-hours/ Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:00:17 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=24900 Jeff Carr has been on a 40-year path of improving lawyer efficiency and effectiveness. “There’s an old saying that if you pay for service by the hour, you buy hours and not service,” he says. “And I still believe that very much.” In this episode of the Legal Rebels Podcast, Carr speaks with ABA Journal reporter Jason Tashea about why he came out of retirement, and how his principle of the Three Es calculated the value of legal services to clients.

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Leading advocate for diversity in legal industry hasn’t seen much progress in 10 years https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2019/02/leading-advocate-for-diversity-in-legal-industry-hasnt-seen-much-progress-in-10-years/ Wed, 13 Feb 2019 12:00:29 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=24620 In the 10 years since Emery K. Harlan, co-founder of the National Association of Minority & Women Owned Law Firms, was featured as an ABA Journal Legal Rebel, he says little has changed for diversity in the profession. “I think it’s stayed about the same,” Harlan tells the ABA Journal’s Stephanie Francis Ward. “The lesson we can take from diversity and inclusion is that there needs to be vigilance. There can never be a point where we can say we’ve achieved all there is to achieve. I think this year’s [Am Law] partnership classes is an indicator of that.”

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Beating the drum for change https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2019/01/beating-the-drum-for-change/ Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:00:26 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=24332 When Ralph Baxter joined the inaugural class of Legal Rebels in 2009, he was the CEO and chairman of Orrick Herrington & Sutcliffe. Just a year into the biggest recession since the Great Depression, he caught the ABA Journal’s attention through his initiatives that took Orrick from a domestic, California-based firm to an international heavyweight while navigating economic turbulence. Since leaving the firm in 2013—after 23 years as chairman–he has gone on to consult with law firms looking to improve their business and service models, sit on the board of LegalZoom and run for the U.S. House of Representatives as a Democrat from West Virginia in 2018. In this episode, he speaks with the ABA Journal’s Jason Tashea about where the profession has been and where he thinks it’s headed.

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Young lawyers can be technophobes too https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2018/12/young-lawyers-can-be-technophobes-too/ Wed, 12 Dec 2018 12:00:19 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=24184 Many lawyers are reluctant to new adopt legal technology, says Monica Goyal, who developed platforms including My Legal Briefcase, which helps parties in the Canadian small claims courts, and Aluvion Law, which uses automation to cut legal services costs for small businesses. “We think young lawyers are on Facebook, Twitter, they’re using computers, and that somehow they will be more willing to try and experiment with new technology. I’ve found that’s not the case,” Goyal tells the ABA Journal’s Stephanie Francis Ward in this episode of the Legal Rebels Podcast.

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Make room for chatbots at your firm, LawDroid founder says https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2018/11/make-room-for-chatbots-at-your-firm-lawdroid-founder-says/ Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:00:26 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=24008 Chatbots have a place in a law office because they can handle busy work that eats up precious time in a lawyer’s day, says LawDroid founder Tom Martin in this episode of the ABA Journal’s Legal Rebels Podcast. By wiping out such mundane tasks, it frees up time for meaningful human interactions between lawyer and client that no machine can master, he tells host Angela Morris.

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Could 80 percent of cases be resolved through online dispute resolution? https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2018/10/could-80-percent-of-cases-be-resolved-through-online-dispute-resolution/ Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:00:07 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=23811 Perhaps in five to seven years, as Colin Rule sees it, half of U.S. citizens who file court cases will have access to online dispute resolution software walking them step by step through their matters, resolving up to 80 percent of cases. Rule, a nonlawyer mediator, is vice president for online dispute resolution at Tyler Technologies. In this episode of the ABA Journal’s Legal Rebels Podcast, Rule speaks with Angela Morris about the possibilities–and pitfalls–for this technology.

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Legal writing pro is helping teach AI to draft contracts https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2018/09/legal-writing-pro-is-helping-teach-ai-to-draft-contracts/ Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:00:02 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=23388 Ken Adams has brought his contract expertise to LegalSifter, a Pittsburgh artificial intelligence startup. The 2009 Legal Rebel and author of “A Manual of Style for Contract Drafting” sat down to discuss his new venture with the ABA Journal’s Jason Taschea. Adams says LegalSifter is a system built with human expertise to address the fact that many customers are doing the same tasks when dealing with contracts. It’s a system that will excel at flagging issues that keep coming up, and he thinks the technology will be sophisticated enough to flag the issues for any one user.

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Legal services innovator moves on to app development https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2018/08/legal-services-innovator-moves-on-to-app-development/ Wed, 15 Aug 2018 11:00:36 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=23163 It’s too easy for attorneys to be aware that something isn’t perfect in their practices and accept the situation instead of pushing back. So says longtime legal innovator Nicole Bradick. “What it’s all about is identifying something not working as well as it should be and thinking of possible solutions,” says Bradick, who in January launched a legal technology company, Theory and Principle, that aims to do just that: “Ask why is this happening, and are there any changes we can make to fix the problem?”

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Entrepreneur Amy Porter’s theme is finding what lawyers need https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2018/07/entrepreneur-amy-porters-theme-is-finding-what-lawyers-need/ Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:00:23 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=22914
When Amy Porter founded the online payment platform AffiniPay, she drew on her experience as a college athlete—cheerleading while majoring in merchandising at the University of Texas at Austin—which led to work as a sales representative with Varsity Brands, an athletic clothing company. Her businesses now include LawPay, an online payment platform for attorneys, and CPACharge, which she developed after discovering accountants were using LawPay for online payments.
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Tech is not the only answer to legal aid issues, Joyce Raby says https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2018/06/tech-is-not-the-only-answer-to-legal-aid-issues-joyce-raby-says/ Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:00:15 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=22662 Since the late 1990s, Joyce Raby has spent a career bringing technology to legal aid. While a booster and believer in technology’s potential to improve America’s legal system, her experience is tempering. “We’ve been saying for a very long time that technology was going to be the saving grace for the justice ecosystem,” she says. “I don’t think it is.” Having worked with the Legal Services Corp. and the Washington State Bar Association, she continues her legal technology trajectory as executive director of the Florida Justice Technology Center.

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From paper to digital documents, Judge Andrew Peck traveled (and set) the discovery trail https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2018/05/from-paper-to-digital-documents-judge-andrew-peck-traveled-and-set-the-discovery-trail/ Wed, 16 May 2018 13:00:01 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=22466 As electronic data became more prevalent in the 1990s, Judge Andrew Peck, an ABA Journal Legal Rebels Trailblazer, wrote a line that would be quoted by judges and lawyers for generations to come. “It is black-letter law that computerized data is discoverable if relevant,” he wrote in Anti-Monopoly Inc. v. Hasbro Inc. It was one of Peck’s earliest decisions from the bench. In this episode of the Legal Rebels Podcast, Peck discusses his career and the technological changes he experienced with the ABA Journal’s Victor Li.

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Outgoing Adobe GC witnessed changes that digitization, globalization wrought https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2018/04/outgoing-adobe-gc-witnessed-changes-that-digitization-globalization-wrought/ Wed, 04 Apr 2018 13:00:37 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=22129 Mike Dillon has seen a lot change over his career as general counsel to some of the nation’s largest technology companies. Working for Silver Spring Networks, Sun Microsystems and, most recently, Adobe Systems, he witnessed firsthand how digitization and globalization affected the operation and practice of a general counsel’s office. In this episode of the Legal Rebels podcast, he speaks with the ABA Journal’s Jason Taschea about his work.

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Longtime legal tech leader Richard Granat finds a new challenge https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2018/03/longtime-legal-tech-leader-richard-granat-finds-a-new-challenge/ Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:00:44 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=22002 Richard Granat–the creator of MyLawyer.com, SmartLegalForms and the People’s Law Library of Maryland–has joined Intraspexion, a new artificial-intelligence software company, as a strategic adviser. At 77, Richard Granat does not fit the stereotype of a startup entrepreneur. However, he says, although there may be bias against older entrepreneurs, his experience is a benefit, not a detraction.

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Mary Juetten hopes legal software can help improve access-to-justice problems https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2018/02/mary-juetten-hopes-legal-software-can-help-improve-access-to-justice-problems/ Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:00:47 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=21689 What will be a big legal trend for 2018? Mary E. Juetten is putting her hopes on legal technology improving access-to-justice problems.

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Robert Litt has been out front on online threats for decades https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2018/01/robert-litt-has-been-out-front-on-online-threats-for-decades/ Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:00:04 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=21453 Robert Litt has confronted cybersecurity and encryption issues for two presidential administrations. With Russian interference in the 2016 election as a backdrop, Litt, an ABA Journal Legal Rebels Trailblazer, says the U.S. has been facing online threats essentially since the internet’s creation.

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Trailblazer with a nonlawyer past brings the present and future to law firms https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2017/12/trailblazer-with-a-nonlawyer-past-brings-the-present-and-future-to-law-firms/ Wed, 13 Dec 2017 14:00:16 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=21331 Adriana Linares considers it a badge of honor to work in the legal profession without being a lawyer. Linares co-founded LawTech Partners with Allan Mackenzie in 2004 after several years in the IT departments of two of the largest firms in Florida. Now she travels across Florida, throughout the country and sometimes abroad as a law practice consultant and legal technology coach. “Lawyers, as far as I’ve ever seen, certainly understand how to research and apply law in a way that helps their clients,” she says. “But where they might need my help is identifying tools and services that will help them with their practice management.”

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Robert Ambrogi’s blog points lawyers to tech’s opportunities https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2017/11/robert-ambrogis-blog-points-lawyers-to-techs-opportunities/ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 14:00:07 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=21160 Legal journalist and blogger Bob Ambrogi recounts his unorthodox path towards legal journalism, as well as where he sees the legal industry heading – especially as it relates to technology.

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Bruce MacEwen diagnoses and prescribes for law practice ills https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2017/10/bruce-macewen-diagnoses-and-prescribes-for-law-practice-ills/ Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:00:13 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=21049 Bruce MacEwen is both a doctor and an epidemiologist in the world of BigLaw firms. A Legal Rebels Trailblazer, the Adam Smith, Esq. founder can diagnose structural illnesses, including aspects of the partner-as-owner model, and he can point to unhealthy customs and practices, such as when aversion to failure becomes its cause. He also can give advice and guidance for getting better and surviving or, in some instances, provide a dispassionately detailed autopsy.

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John Tredennick of Catalyst took the lead in the ‘80s to bring tech to his law firm https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2017/09/john-tredennick-of-catalyst-took-the-lead-in-the-80s-to-bring-tech-to-his-law-firm/ Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:00:09 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=20884 John Tredennick started a focus on legal technology in 1988—back when law firms saw it as something limited to fancy computers and adding machines. He asked Holland & Hart, the Denver-based firm where he was a partner, to add the words chief information officer to his title. “You need a leader, not just somebody on staff but somebody who understands the bigger vision of the firm—where we fit in the legal landscape and how we can harness technology to get us where we want to be,” Tredennick told partners. “I said, ‘I want to be that leader,’ and they made me the technology partner.”

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From C-Suite-Type Post to Legal Service Founder, Mills Has Always Been a Leader. https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2017/08/from-c-suite-type-post-to-legal-service-founder-mills-has-always-been-a-leader/ Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:00:26 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=20713 Michael Mills has been helping law firms figure out their technological needs since before there was an internet. As one of the first of what are now known as chief knowledge officers, Mills played a leading role in educating his fellow lawyers and implementing tools and processes designed to help lawyers do their jobs more effectively. After over two decades in Big Law, Mills decided to stake out on his own, eventually co-founding Neota Logic, a company that allows users to design and create their own tools to fit their needs. Mills talks about his career, as well as what role technology will play in the legal industry going forward.

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Susskind sees ‘rosy future’ for law—if it embraces technology https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2017/07/susskind-sees-rosy-future-for-law-if-it-embraces-technology/ Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:09:03 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=20536 For more than three decades, Richard Susskind has been one of the profession’s most prolific voices in support of implementing technology with legal services delivery. The author of more than 10 books on the topic, his next one will focus on technology in the courtroom. “A better way of running state-based dispute resolution is largely using technology, rather than using traditional methods,” says Susskind. “Rather than hiring a lawyer, one might instead have an online dialogue with the other party and a judge and resolve a dispute more rapidly.”

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Paul Lippe’s ‘new normal’ was always about innovation https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2017/06/paul-lippes-new-normal-was-always-about-innovation/ Wed, 14 Jun 2017 13:00:23 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=20383 For years, Paul Lippe has been a leader in helping corporate law departments adopt the approaches used in the best and most innovative parts of their own companies—and in doing so, significantly changing the relationships with and the work done by their outside lawyers. A Legal Rebels Trailblazer and one of the original New Normal contributors for ABAJournal.com, Lippe’s career path has been all about change and innovation.

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Lisa Solomon found the time was right for her career in online legal research https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2017/05/lisa-solomon-found-the-time-was-right-for-her-career-in-online-legal-research/ Wed, 10 May 2017 13:00:31 +0000 https://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=20250 Plenty of lawyers hate to do legal research: It can be tedious and time-consuming, and one mistake can tank an entire case. For lawyers of a certain generation, the very sight of those two-toned, musty-smelling books that all look the same is enough to fill them with dread. For younger lawyers, electronic resources can be just as intimidating and mystifying. Luckily for Lisa Solomon, she loves that kind of work.

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Justia’s Stacy Stern finds real profit in making things free https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/aba-journal-legal-rebels/2017/04/justias-stacy-stern-finds-real-profit-making-things-free/ Wed, 12 Apr 2017 13:05:37 +0000 http://legaltalknetwork.com/?post_type=ltn_episodes&p=20006 Stacy Stern is in charge of revenues, among her other roles at a successful for-profit company, but she tends to talk more about giving away products and services. It becomes obvious that she thinks giving is more important than receiving—not that Justia, the legal portal she and her husband, Tim Stanley, created, isn’t out to make money.

But–philosophically at least–they turn the standard business model on its head. Profit for the 100-plus-employee company makes it possible to put up more free stuff. Stern, a 2017 Legal Rebel Trailblazer, and Stanley, one of the original ABA Journal Legal Rebels, make basic law free and available to one and all, while turning a profit by helping lawyers market themselves.

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